XBox 360 and Piracy

So, Rainbow Six Vegas 2 has been leaked, and people are playing it way before the release day (3/18/08). Of course, this isn't the first game to be leaked earlly by the 360, in fact many titles for the 360 are released the weekend before the actual launch date. This only goes to show, console piracy is also a problem on consoles. However, for some reason it seems to fly under the radar of gaming news. Why? You tell me.edit: To clear up some confusion: The game was leaked about an hour before I posted this thread.Also, 360 pirates do not get banned from XBL playing a pirated version of their game -- which is a common misconception when PC piracy and 360 piracy is compared with each other. XBox 360 and Piracy
Does online work? They should be banned.Goes under radar because doesn't affect it as much as the simplicity of PC piracy. Also, you never know when MS will strike back. XBox 360 and Piracy
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes.
well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent
[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE]



And I know tons of people who refuse to pirate a single PC game. Annecdotal evidence is never a good indicator. PC games are selling great, even without DRM on the games. Its funny that a game without any copyright protection is the top selling PC game on the market, and one of the best selling games of the last few months.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but no one should be playing it at the moment, so we know 99% of those are leaked copies.

[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it.
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How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.
Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.[/QUOTE] The game just is on the internet, and people are downloading it as we speak. So, yes it has a lot to do with piracy.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.
Most pirates get banned from xbox live.Thats why piracy is very low on the 360.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console is modded, you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated, since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you. [/QUOTE]I know that..The lie is that nobody plays on pirated servers. That's total BS and you know it.especially since they are so easy to set up.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console if modded you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.[/QUOTE] Haha. Dude, I don't want to go into detail because it's against the TOS, but you do not need a modchip to play pirated 360 games. This is precisely why you can play on XBL without getting banned, since it XBL piracy detection thinks it's a legit copy of the game.What kind of proof would you like me to provide, other then the ''release'' name I just pasted. Anything that isn't against the TOS, I will provide.
[QUOTE=''XaosII''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?[/QUOTE]I'm not doubting that people are downloading the game. Hell, I KNOW that's happening. But are they playing them on live? Playing the single player on a modded system..Yes. Multplayer on live? That's a bit more sketchy.