Naaah, console games would score too little.. Everyone would think GS was biased towards... Just a review idea I want opinions on.
not a dumb idea, but it would cause too much confusion and way too much fanboy bickering.
Friday, April 16, 2010
Just a review idea I want opinions on.
Don't you think it would be a good idea to have 2 reviews? An initial review (what we have now) and another review like 6 months later, just to see if the game stood up to their rating, and it would be better that hype for games dies down,patches etc.Now that updates and patches are a huge part of games, its not fair to review them how they were initially, because in some cases the games are like completely different after updates.And I cant help but feel that hype and other factors go into a game review....like i seems the overall opinion on Halo 3 is that it was overrated, from hardcore fans to people that barely played the previous games.....if it was reviewed again now, it would prob be different.Maybe a dumb idea but I just want opinions from other people.....if they did what I just said I just think it would be a lot better....there are tons of games that are rated really good, but just dont seem it and get boring after a while...the ratings for the most part would go way up or down....2 reviews would separate the truly really good games from the others.Dumb idea? Oh and by the way I know its impossible for this site at this point considering it seems hard enough for them to put out one review....Just a review idea I want opinions on.
Naaah, console games would score too little.. Everyone would think GS was biased towards... Just a review idea I want opinions on.
not a dumb idea, but it would cause too much confusion and way too much fanboy bickering.stop blackheads
Naaah, console games would score too little.. Everyone would think GS was biased towards... Just a review idea I want opinions on.
not a dumb idea, but it would cause too much confusion and way too much fanboy bickering.
Starcraft's races remind me of the curre ...
Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) Starcraft's races remind me of the curre ...
isn't zerg the father of you know who in toy story 2?Starcraft's races remind me of the curre ...
[QUOTE=''enral'']Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.
[QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then?
[QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]Will, it doesn't play music, it doesn't play DVDs, but it does play games, what is it if it isn't a gaming console?
[QUOTE=''nintendo-4life'']isn't zerg the father of you know who in toy story 2?[/QUOTE]Buzz Lighter? lol why the ''you know who'' ? teh spoilars?
[QUOTE=''ithilgore2006''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]Will, it doesn't play music, it doesn't play DVDs, but it does play games, what is it if it isn't a gaming console?
[/QUOTE]it's a gimmick console in which even the games are gimmicks ^^
Atari would be Xel'Naga....pwned by the Zergs :P
That's actually a great comparison.I never saw it like that.
[QUOTE=''VGobbsesser'']That's actually a great comparison.I never saw it like that.[/QUOTE] Haha, thanks. :D Was just playing starcraft with my friend and it just came to my mind.
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[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]It is the very definition of a gaming console. The PS3 and 360 are entertainment media centers, though, and not gaming consoles.
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo'']it's a gimmick console in which even the games are gimmicks ^^ [/QUOTE]Because a GOTY title and two AAAE 9.5's are gimmicks:lol:If Wii's games are gimmicks and it recieved the GOTY last year what the hell does that say for the other consoles? That their games are less then gimmicks?
isn't zerg the father of you know who in toy story 2?Starcraft's races remind me of the curre ...
[QUOTE=''enral'']Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.
[QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then?
[QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]Will, it doesn't play music, it doesn't play DVDs, but it does play games, what is it if it isn't a gaming console?
[QUOTE=''nintendo-4life'']isn't zerg the father of you know who in toy story 2?[/QUOTE]Buzz Lighter? lol why the ''you know who'' ? teh spoilars?
[QUOTE=''ithilgore2006''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce) [/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]Will, it doesn't play music, it doesn't play DVDs, but it does play games, what is it if it isn't a gaming console?
[/QUOTE]it's a gimmick console in which even the games are gimmicks ^^
Atari would be Xel'Naga....pwned by the Zergs :P
That's actually a great comparison.I never saw it like that.
[QUOTE=''VGobbsesser'']That's actually a great comparison.I never saw it like that.[/QUOTE] Haha, thanks. :D Was just playing starcraft with my friend and it just came to my mind.
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[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''enral''][QUOTE=''donwoogie''][QUOTE=''enral''] Protoss = PS3. The PS3 is expensive (like the protoss unit costs) and reliable/sturdy (protoss's shield) with little games (due to the cost of protoss units, it usually has the least number of units).Terran = Xbox360. 360 has serious hardware problems (imagine your terran buildings on fire) but has good games (terran units are efficient and powerful).Zerg = Wii. Wii is the underdog this gen (zergs are the underdogs) and everyone not owning the wii are irritated at their overwhelming sales and shovelware (mass production speed and the largest number of units). The wii is also the cheapest this gen (zerg units are the cheapest to produce)[/QUOTE]I prefer to think of Xbox 360 as the Zerg...... It basically did a Zerg rush (strongest and first out of the gate) with overwhelming numbers (high number of sales) but now that the other races have built up their economies and pumping out units (other consoles soidified their positions and weathered the initial storm (Wii much faster than PS3 though)) they are starting to feel the burn.[/QUOTE]
That's plausible too. But how about the wii then? [/QUOTE]well the wii is hard to associate if we think of it as gaming console, which it ISN'T [/QUOTE]It is the very definition of a gaming console. The PS3 and 360 are entertainment media centers, though, and not gaming consoles.
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo'']it's a gimmick console in which even the games are gimmicks ^^ [/QUOTE]Because a GOTY title and two AAAE 9.5's are gimmicks:lol:If Wii's games are gimmicks and it recieved the GOTY last year what the hell does that say for the other consoles? That their games are less then gimmicks?
IF Microsoft supported Digital Distribut ...
Then why did they spend millions supporting hd dvd and why make sure 360 HDD aren't upgradable and also why were they in talks with sony about blu ray if they knew DD would win? First off i think sony didn't want them to get blu ray just yet so they would be less competetive and also i think MS is too prideful to admit they lost the format war. We all know DD is the future but it's the distant future and sony knows this as they said ps4 would be disc-less and i'm sure nintendo will be the same. The fact is we don't have the broadband speed yet and we have to wait till TB hard drives become the norm, eveyone knows DD is the future but it's the distant future and i'm sure Sony, nintendo and MS are ready for it but with this generation MS lost out cause i'm sure sony won't let them have blu ray just yet, maybe in future and cause hd dvd is dead MS's only way of getting hd movies across is through downloads which most people don't want and it doesn't support full 1080p, i'm sure behind closed doors MS are really nervous on what to do and how to compete with blu ray. I for one am fully behind DD but not till the distant future so this generation i think i'm with nearly everyone else, dvds/blu ray. IF Microsoft supported Digital Distribut ...
For starters its not up to Sony its up to the Blu-ray group and if ms wants blu-ray they will get it. IF Microsoft supported Digital Distribut ...
This link should help...http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/06/bay_blames_ms/MS is scum, but what corporation isnt?
Because DD won't completely replace normal distribution for yet another 10 years because of insufficent broadband capacity for most households? DD is growing.. but the casual console gaming market isn't ready for it. (Not every 10 year old GTA playing kid can get ahold of a credit card) Console market is way too casual for DD in the near future.
[QUOTE=''xTHExJUICEx'']This link should help...http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/06/bay_blames_ms/MS is scum, but what corporation isnt?[/QUOTE]lol yes its all ms fault!:roll: The war is there because of Sony/Blu-ray grp and Toshiba. They created the rival technologies. I agree that ms wants them to fail but they did not start the war.
[QUOTE=''Duckyindiana'']For starters its not up to Sony its up to the Blu-ray group and if ms wants blu-ray they will get it. [/QUOTE] New Blu Ray equipped ELITE Sku on the way anyone?
For starters its not up to Sony its up to the Blu-ray group and if ms wants blu-ray they will get it. IF Microsoft supported Digital Distribut ...
This link should help...http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/06/bay_blames_ms/MS is scum, but what corporation isnt?
Because DD won't completely replace normal distribution for yet another 10 years because of insufficent broadband capacity for most households? DD is growing.. but the casual console gaming market isn't ready for it. (Not every 10 year old GTA playing kid can get ahold of a credit card) Console market is way too casual for DD in the near future.
[QUOTE=''xTHExJUICEx'']This link should help...http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/06/bay_blames_ms/MS is scum, but what corporation isnt?[/QUOTE]lol yes its all ms fault!:roll: The war is there because of Sony/Blu-ray grp and Toshiba. They created the rival technologies. I agree that ms wants them to fail but they did not start the war.
[QUOTE=''Duckyindiana'']For starters its not up to Sony its up to the Blu-ray group and if ms wants blu-ray they will get it. [/QUOTE] New Blu Ray equipped ELITE Sku on the way anyone?
Whats Next in video games
What do you think the next gen of consoles will be like from microsoft, sony, and nintendo.Whats Next in video games
They will all be one in the same.Whats Next in video games
8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D
im expecting a big grafic upgrade with with wii gameplay style!!
[QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose''][QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D[/QUOTE]NOT true at all. You could get it for less at Walmart :P :P Oh and it would never ever ever ever EVER require upgrading. The components (like the CPU and GPU) all have temporal spatial engines that allow them to reconfigure themselves to meet with updating standards ;)
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose''][QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D[/QUOTE]NOT true at all. You could get it for less at Walmart :P :P Oh and it would never ever ever ever EVER require upgrading. The components (like the CPU and GPU) all have temporal spatial engines that allow them to reconfigure themselves to meet with updating standards ;)[/QUOTE]Someone has watched too much Transformers...I think next gen, we will go back to a 800 MHz Processor, 8 Megs RAM, and a 16 MB vid card. It'll be $50 and games will be $10.
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]*Head Explodes*:shock::P
Rehash old ideas and claim to be innovative with more hype and better commercial groups.... a new graphic card, a larger harddrive, a new controller, and maybe a new disc driver.....
What I see happening with the new Nintendo system is that they will upgrade the graphics up to the point of the XBOX360/PS3's level of graphics. They will add a new gimicky controller. And continue as planned with the massive overload of mini games/shovelware and the same old zelda/mario games.
Seriously, though...A quad or octo-core processor isn't outside the realm of possibility. Intel plans a desktop octo by the end of '09, and the consoles aren't due until at least late 2010.2GB RAM should definitely be a minimum. By 2010, 4GB would be preferable and probably quite affordable.4x BluRay will probably be standard across all platforms, which should alleviate transfer rate concerns (a 4x BluRay would be faster than just about any DVD drive).As for the GPU...well, a lot of that will depend on the nVidia and ATI/AMD. Their constant one-upmanship will keep the waters there quite muddy.With digital distribution an increasing presence, internal hard drives should be standard: preferably ones with a capacity of at least 320 or even 500GB. To alleviate concerns of space and backup, the ability to offload game data to external hard drives should be allowed. Concerns about transfers and so on can be addressed with the same DRM techniques used in iTunes and Steam.
They will all be one in the same.Whats Next in video games
8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D
im expecting a big grafic upgrade with with wii gameplay style!!
[QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose''][QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D[/QUOTE]NOT true at all. You could get it for less at Walmart :P :P Oh and it would never ever ever ever EVER require upgrading. The components (like the CPU and GPU) all have temporal spatial engines that allow them to reconfigure themselves to meet with updating standards ;)
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist''][QUOTE=''SpruceCaboose''][QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]And it'd only cost you $12,864 and a kidney! :D[/QUOTE]NOT true at all. You could get it for less at Walmart :P :P Oh and it would never ever ever ever EVER require upgrading. The components (like the CPU and GPU) all have temporal spatial engines that allow them to reconfigure themselves to meet with updating standards ;)[/QUOTE]Someone has watched too much Transformers...I think next gen, we will go back to a 800 MHz Processor, 8 Megs RAM, and a 16 MB vid card. It'll be $50 and games will be $10.
[QUOTE=''AdobeArtist'']8 Parallel Processors
1 Terabyte solid state storage (flash drives)
Quad GPUs
2160p HD in a 120'' floating curved projection
Articulated Gesture Glove interface (like in Minority Report)
500 GB optical crystal media for the games
[/QUOTE]*Head Explodes*:shock::P
Rehash old ideas and claim to be innovative with more hype and better commercial groups.... a new graphic card, a larger harddrive, a new controller, and maybe a new disc driver.....
What I see happening with the new Nintendo system is that they will upgrade the graphics up to the point of the XBOX360/PS3's level of graphics. They will add a new gimicky controller. And continue as planned with the massive overload of mini games/shovelware and the same old zelda/mario games.
Seriously, though...A quad or octo-core processor isn't outside the realm of possibility. Intel plans a desktop octo by the end of '09, and the consoles aren't due until at least late 2010.2GB RAM should definitely be a minimum. By 2010, 4GB would be preferable and probably quite affordable.4x BluRay will probably be standard across all platforms, which should alleviate transfer rate concerns (a 4x BluRay would be faster than just about any DVD drive).As for the GPU...well, a lot of that will depend on the nVidia and ATI/AMD. Their constant one-upmanship will keep the waters there quite muddy.With digital distribution an increasing presence, internal hard drives should be standard: preferably ones with a capacity of at least 320 or even 500GB. To alleviate concerns of space and backup, the ability to offload game data to external hard drives should be allowed. Concerns about transfers and so on can be addressed with the same DRM techniques used in iTunes and Steam.
I don't like the Wii... but I'm a just a ...
As long as Nintendo continues to succeed at positioning itself as family oriented and fun, it'll continue to sell a half a million a month or more. They've tapped into a segment of the population that does not game in general. That's the secret of their success this gen, and they've played that angle beautifully. I would consider myself a gamer at heart and being one, Nintendo already has me in their pocket as one who will buy it for just a game or two. I'm not the one they're aiming for... it's people who don't game daily and who haven't owned consoles before they have their sights set on.
Cases in point: my sister, mother in law, two sisters in law, and two brothers all sought out Wii's within the last six months. That wouldn't be so strange if it weren't for the fact every single one of them hates video games. I don't mean just dislikes them, but HATES video games. They claim they are worthless, meaningless, pointless wastes of time. (Especially when it comes to anything on the PC, 360, or PS3.) yet for some reason each of them had to have the Wii.
Why? Because to them it's a physical experience, not just a video game.
Before I go any further, let me say that I am no friend of the Wii. In my view, many of it's games are gimmicky, under-developed, and they just don't have enough to offer me personally. I have a Wii, but it's because of Mario Galaxy and Trauma Center mainly, otherwise it just sits there.
That being said, I feel the main draw to the Wii for non-gamers is the idea of interacting directly with the game through motions you're already used to (Wii Sports and Wii Play namely) and they are largely uncomplicated to play as well. That fact, plus only a few buttons on a controller that's unintimidating to use to say the least make for a compelling platform.
Call it a fad, call it what you want, but it's beating the snot out of both the 360 and PS3 every month. If they keep the non-gamers buying it, count on the next gen consoles from all three companies to be ''family-oriented'' and less hardcore than this gen. MS is already trying to position itself that way, with limited success, and Sony will follow suit as well. Count on it. I don't like the Wii... but I'm a just a ...
Blog post?I don't like the Wii... but I'm a just a ...
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Mods can do whatever they want. :P
True. The hardcore Nintendo fans will always buy it for the 1st party. With the broad appeal they are sorted without having to compete for the same audience as 360 and PS3. Brilliant move from Nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]you're fine. carry on.
i bought it for the excellent and great new controls and the first party games. any thrd party games that have good quality are welcome too...
Well so far imho one of the few things that's changed with Nintendo this gen (as far as consoles are concerned) are the sales. Gamewise, the library looks no more robust than the gamecube of last gen; I just don't see the growing 3rd party support. It's still a first party system.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil:
Only a few games on the Wii interest me.
So for now, I'm Wii-Less. :P
[QUOTE=''SER69''][QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil: [/QUOTE]:lol: Yeah... and is your Dad a gamer?
Well, the way I see it, I'm going to have to buy a Wii for the next Zelda game eventually anyway, and games like SMG, SSBB, MP3, and NMH sure as hell don't hurt.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE] no discussion only flaming and kiddy screamsso in that spirit OMG NOOB LOL!
[QUOTE=''JakeT''] [QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]Just thought I磀 say it. Since I recall seeing threads like this get locked due to the bloggish nature of their content.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''SER69''][QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil: [/QUOTE]:lol: Yeah... and is your Dad a gamer?[/QUOTE]He never touched a game before!!! LOL And now he even keeps track of every Tennis match he plays and how many points, time and what not.!!!:lol:
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark''][QUOTE=''JakeT''] [QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]Just thought I磀 say it. Since I recall seeing threads like this get locked due to the bloggish nature of their content.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. If it needs to be locked, then so be it.
I agree, but the wii is priced well. I bought one of craigs list for 220.00 just for smg. I bought ssmb but dont see what the hype is all about. Out of all my systems I have played the wii the least. The only play my ps3 gets is from bluray movies. Im not complaining because bluray rocks!!!!!
I agree with what TC had said, but furthermore, I'd like to add my views on why I actually have serious problems with the Wii.In another thread a Wii defender used a line similar to ''Serious gaming console? Isnt that an oxymoron ?''That is a perfect reflection of the majority Wii system buyer. They dont see gaming as serious, and they dont veiw gaming as a top tier form of entertainment, like film, books and music.The Wii has done even more to enforce this veiw among non-gamers. The Wii is the very definition of why people frown on gamers like myself, for whom gaming is there top entertainment outlet. I play games more then I watch movies, TV or buy CD's.Gaming has come so far in the last 15-20 years or so. Gaming is leading the way in cutting edge technology, personal entertainment interactivity, storytelling, and with even consoles now online, group interactivity.The Wii is going completely against all the progress that games have made. And its enforcing the ''games are second rate entertainment'' stereotype, and has the potential to do serious harm to the industry as a whole.The Wii is bad for gaming, and gamers. Its a devolution, not an evolution.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''] As long as Nintendo continues to succeed at positioning itself as family oriented and fun, it'll continue to sell a half a million a month or more. They've tapped into a segment of the population that does not game in general. That's the secret of their success this gen, and they've played that angle beautifully. I would consider myself a gamer at heart and being one, Nintendo already has me in their pocket as one who will buy it for just a game or two. I'm not the one they're aiming for... it's people who don't game daily and who haven't owned consoles before they have their sights set on.
Cases in point: my sister, mother in law, two sisters in law, and two brothers all sought out Wii's within the last six months. That wouldn't be so strange if it weren't for the fact every single one of them hates video games. I don't mean just dislikes them, but HATES video games. They claim they are worthless, meaningless, pointless wastes of time. (Especially when it comes to anything on the PC, 360, or PS3.) yet for some reason each of them had to have the Wii.
Why? Because to them it's a physical experience, not just a video game.
Before I go any further, let me say that I am no friend of the Wii. In my view, many of it's games are gimmicky, under-developed, and they just don't have enough to offer me personally. I have a Wii, but it's because of Mario Galaxy and Trauma Center mainly, otherwise it just sits there.
That being said, I feel the main draw to the Wii for non-gamers is the idea of interacting directly with the game through motions you're already used to (Wii Sports and Wii Play namely) and they are largely uncomplicated to play as well. That fact, plus only a few buttons on a controller that's unintimidating to use to say the least make for a compelling platform.
Call it a fad, call it what you want, but it's beating the snot out of both the 360 and PS3 every month. If they keep the non-gamers buying it, count on the next gen consoles from all three companies to be ''family-oriented'' and less hardcore than this gen. MS is already trying to position itself that way, with limited success, and Sony will follow suit as well. Count on it. [/QUOTE]good post, you do a great job of explaining why the wii is so successfulthis might be a good eye-opener for those who claim that the wii is only successful because of the pricepeople are buying the wii who would never ever consider buying a PS3 or 360 due to the fact that the wii was built from the ground up to be TAYLOR made for EVERYBODY, while the ps3 and 360 were made for gamers only. this is why nintendo will be the most successful this generation.
[QUOTE=''evilross'']I agree with what TC had said, but furthermore, I'd like to add my views on why I actually have serious problems with the Wii.In another thread a Wii defender used a line similar to ''Serious gaming console? Isnt that an oxymoron ?''That is a perfect reflection of the majority Wii system buyer. They dont see gaming as serious, and they dont veiw gaming as a top tier form of entertainment, like film, books and music.The Wii has done even more to enforce this veiw among non-gamers. The Wii is the very definition of why people frown on gamers like myself, for whom gaming is there top entertainment outlet. I play games more then I watch movies, TV or buy CD's.Gaming has come so far in the last 15-20 years or so. Gaming is leading the way in cutting edge technology, personal entertainment interactivity, storytelling, and with even consoles now online, group interactivity.The Wii is going completely against all the progress that games have made. And its enforcing the ''games are second rate entertainment'' stereotype, and has the potential to do serious harm to the industry as a whole.The Wii is bad for gaming, and gamers. Its a devolution, not an evolution. [/QUOTE]Hmmm... NO
Cases in point: my sister, mother in law, two sisters in law, and two brothers all sought out Wii's within the last six months. That wouldn't be so strange if it weren't for the fact every single one of them hates video games. I don't mean just dislikes them, but HATES video games. They claim they are worthless, meaningless, pointless wastes of time. (Especially when it comes to anything on the PC, 360, or PS3.) yet for some reason each of them had to have the Wii.
Why? Because to them it's a physical experience, not just a video game.
Before I go any further, let me say that I am no friend of the Wii. In my view, many of it's games are gimmicky, under-developed, and they just don't have enough to offer me personally. I have a Wii, but it's because of Mario Galaxy and Trauma Center mainly, otherwise it just sits there.
That being said, I feel the main draw to the Wii for non-gamers is the idea of interacting directly with the game through motions you're already used to (Wii Sports and Wii Play namely) and they are largely uncomplicated to play as well. That fact, plus only a few buttons on a controller that's unintimidating to use to say the least make for a compelling platform.
Call it a fad, call it what you want, but it's beating the snot out of both the 360 and PS3 every month. If they keep the non-gamers buying it, count on the next gen consoles from all three companies to be ''family-oriented'' and less hardcore than this gen. MS is already trying to position itself that way, with limited success, and Sony will follow suit as well. Count on it. I don't like the Wii... but I'm a just a ...
Blog post?I don't like the Wii... but I'm a just a ...
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Mods can do whatever they want. :P
True. The hardcore Nintendo fans will always buy it for the 1st party. With the broad appeal they are sorted without having to compete for the same audience as 360 and PS3. Brilliant move from Nintendo.
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]you're fine. carry on.
i bought it for the excellent and great new controls and the first party games. any thrd party games that have good quality are welcome too...
Well so far imho one of the few things that's changed with Nintendo this gen (as far as consoles are concerned) are the sales. Gamewise, the library looks no more robust than the gamecube of last gen; I just don't see the growing 3rd party support. It's still a first party system.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil:
Only a few games on the Wii interest me.
So for now, I'm Wii-Less. :P
[QUOTE=''SER69''][QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil: [/QUOTE]:lol: Yeah... and is your Dad a gamer?
Well, the way I see it, I'm going to have to buy a Wii for the next Zelda game eventually anyway, and games like SMG, SSBB, MP3, and NMH sure as hell don't hurt.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE] no discussion only flaming and kiddy screamsso in that spirit OMG NOOB LOL!
[QUOTE=''JakeT''] [QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]Just thought I磀 say it. Since I recall seeing threads like this get locked due to the bloggish nature of their content.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''SER69''][QUOTE=''JakeT''][QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]I hate the Wii!!!!!!I cannot play SSBB because my dad is playing WiiSports!!!! :evil: [/QUOTE]:lol: Yeah... and is your Dad a gamer?[/QUOTE]He never touched a game before!!! LOL And now he even keeps track of every Tennis match he plays and how many points, time and what not.!!!:lol:
[QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark''][QUOTE=''JakeT''] [QUOTE=''Can-o-Mark'']Blog post?[/QUOTE]Just trying to get some discussion going in here... :D Or is this no longer a place for discussion? I've been gone for a while. [/QUOTE]Just thought I磀 say it. Since I recall seeing threads like this get locked due to the bloggish nature of their content.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. If it needs to be locked, then so be it.
I agree, but the wii is priced well. I bought one of craigs list for 220.00 just for smg. I bought ssmb but dont see what the hype is all about. Out of all my systems I have played the wii the least. The only play my ps3 gets is from bluray movies. Im not complaining because bluray rocks!!!!!
I agree with what TC had said, but furthermore, I'd like to add my views on why I actually have serious problems with the Wii.In another thread a Wii defender used a line similar to ''Serious gaming console? Isnt that an oxymoron ?''That is a perfect reflection of the majority Wii system buyer. They dont see gaming as serious, and they dont veiw gaming as a top tier form of entertainment, like film, books and music.The Wii has done even more to enforce this veiw among non-gamers. The Wii is the very definition of why people frown on gamers like myself, for whom gaming is there top entertainment outlet. I play games more then I watch movies, TV or buy CD's.Gaming has come so far in the last 15-20 years or so. Gaming is leading the way in cutting edge technology, personal entertainment interactivity, storytelling, and with even consoles now online, group interactivity.The Wii is going completely against all the progress that games have made. And its enforcing the ''games are second rate entertainment'' stereotype, and has the potential to do serious harm to the industry as a whole.The Wii is bad for gaming, and gamers. Its a devolution, not an evolution.
[QUOTE=''JakeT''] As long as Nintendo continues to succeed at positioning itself as family oriented and fun, it'll continue to sell a half a million a month or more. They've tapped into a segment of the population that does not game in general. That's the secret of their success this gen, and they've played that angle beautifully. I would consider myself a gamer at heart and being one, Nintendo already has me in their pocket as one who will buy it for just a game or two. I'm not the one they're aiming for... it's people who don't game daily and who haven't owned consoles before they have their sights set on.
Cases in point: my sister, mother in law, two sisters in law, and two brothers all sought out Wii's within the last six months. That wouldn't be so strange if it weren't for the fact every single one of them hates video games. I don't mean just dislikes them, but HATES video games. They claim they are worthless, meaningless, pointless wastes of time. (Especially when it comes to anything on the PC, 360, or PS3.) yet for some reason each of them had to have the Wii.
Why? Because to them it's a physical experience, not just a video game.
Before I go any further, let me say that I am no friend of the Wii. In my view, many of it's games are gimmicky, under-developed, and they just don't have enough to offer me personally. I have a Wii, but it's because of Mario Galaxy and Trauma Center mainly, otherwise it just sits there.
That being said, I feel the main draw to the Wii for non-gamers is the idea of interacting directly with the game through motions you're already used to (Wii Sports and Wii Play namely) and they are largely uncomplicated to play as well. That fact, plus only a few buttons on a controller that's unintimidating to use to say the least make for a compelling platform.
Call it a fad, call it what you want, but it's beating the snot out of both the 360 and PS3 every month. If they keep the non-gamers buying it, count on the next gen consoles from all three companies to be ''family-oriented'' and less hardcore than this gen. MS is already trying to position itself that way, with limited success, and Sony will follow suit as well. Count on it. [/QUOTE]good post, you do a great job of explaining why the wii is so successfulthis might be a good eye-opener for those who claim that the wii is only successful because of the pricepeople are buying the wii who would never ever consider buying a PS3 or 360 due to the fact that the wii was built from the ground up to be TAYLOR made for EVERYBODY, while the ps3 and 360 were made for gamers only. this is why nintendo will be the most successful this generation.
[QUOTE=''evilross'']I agree with what TC had said, but furthermore, I'd like to add my views on why I actually have serious problems with the Wii.In another thread a Wii defender used a line similar to ''Serious gaming console? Isnt that an oxymoron ?''That is a perfect reflection of the majority Wii system buyer. They dont see gaming as serious, and they dont veiw gaming as a top tier form of entertainment, like film, books and music.The Wii has done even more to enforce this veiw among non-gamers. The Wii is the very definition of why people frown on gamers like myself, for whom gaming is there top entertainment outlet. I play games more then I watch movies, TV or buy CD's.Gaming has come so far in the last 15-20 years or so. Gaming is leading the way in cutting edge technology, personal entertainment interactivity, storytelling, and with even consoles now online, group interactivity.The Wii is going completely against all the progress that games have made. And its enforcing the ''games are second rate entertainment'' stereotype, and has the potential to do serious harm to the industry as a whole.The Wii is bad for gaming, and gamers. Its a devolution, not an evolution. [/QUOTE]Hmmm... NO
Ninja gaiden dragon sword review
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/ninjagaidendragonsword/review.html?tag=topslot;title;18.5 Good score on par with Chains of olympus Ninja gaiden dragon sword review
NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplayNinja gaiden dragon sword review
[QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE]well GoW is higher in gamerankings than NGDS. but still reviews are just opinion, go for what looks good to you.
sweet. cant wait. wow, i was expecting a 9 but 8.5 is a real good score too. good match againest GOWCOO which is also a great game.
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[QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...
Another purchase on the DS I want but may not be able to get for some time... :x Partly because Brawl stole my life....
[QUOTE=''Homesrfan''][QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...[/QUOTE]It has neither. God of War chains of olympus is shorter, but far superior to ninja gaiden ds in every other way.It is kind of proven, when the game has a 8 % difference at gamerankings. This game is just 3 hours longer.
[QUOTE=''AgentA-Mi6'']Can't wait to download it :D[/QUOTE] couldn't you get moded for saying that :?
[QUOTE=''samusarmada''][QUOTE=''AgentA-Mi6'']Can't wait to download it :D[/QUOTE] couldn't you get moded for saying that :?[/QUOTE]
I hope so :/
[QUOTE=''Homesrfan''] [QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...[/QUOTE]At least it has a gameplay that can pretty much only work on the DS, unlike CoO which I sure can work on the PS2. But either way I sure both are really fun.:)stop blackheads
NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplayNinja gaiden dragon sword review
[QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE]well GoW is higher in gamerankings than NGDS. but still reviews are just opinion, go for what looks good to you.
sweet. cant wait. wow, i was expecting a 9 but 8.5 is a real good score too. good match againest GOWCOO which is also a great game.
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[QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...
Another purchase on the DS I want but may not be able to get for some time... :x Partly because Brawl stole my life....
[QUOTE=''Homesrfan''][QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...[/QUOTE]It has neither. God of War chains of olympus is shorter, but far superior to ninja gaiden ds in every other way.It is kind of proven, when the game has a 8 % difference at gamerankings. This game is just 3 hours longer.
[QUOTE=''AgentA-Mi6'']Can't wait to download it :D[/QUOTE] couldn't you get moded for saying that :?
[QUOTE=''samusarmada''][QUOTE=''AgentA-Mi6'']Can't wait to download it :D[/QUOTE] couldn't you get moded for saying that :?[/QUOTE]
I hope so :/
[QUOTE=''Homesrfan''] [QUOTE=''Ingenemployee'']NGDS is awesome, definitely on par with GOWCOO which is also a good game, but PSP fan boys will say GOW is better because it has better graphics. Well goood for you, GOW have better graphics, but NGDS have better gameplay[/QUOTE] Just because a game has worse graphics, doesn't mean it has better gameplay...[/QUOTE]At least it has a gameplay that can pretty much only work on the DS, unlike CoO which I sure can work on the PS2. But either way I sure both are really fun.:)
MGS4 Confirmed 50GB Blu-ray
In a Konami retailers meeting yesterday, it was exposed that the game would be produced on a 50GB Blu-ray disc.
Ryan Patyon announced on the Kojima Report Podcast that US/European copies of MGS4 would not contain a Japanese voiceover and visa versa:
Unfortunately because of disc space, we don't have the space to include other languages, other voice over files for the respective versions.
So the Japanese version's not gonna have English voiceover, and the North American and European versions won't have Japanese voiceover.
Many presumed that Kojima decided to go with a 25gb Blu-ray disc to save on costs, but it was yesterday revealed in a Konami retailers meeting that the game is the biggest of the series, and will be presented on a 50GB disc.
What's taking up so much space we can only imagine. There will be hours of high-quality surround sound, and perhaps HD movies even though previous series had cutscenes rendered in real-time. How much space is taken up by game assets is unknown, but the release of MGS4 might be the greatest production of double-layer Blu-ray discs in the formats short history.SOURCEMGS4 Confirmed 50GB Blu-ray
if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.MGS4 Confirmed 50GB Blu-ray
so much space for such a graphically crappy game? dayyyummmm, kojima probably has duplicated data to speed up the loading in the game...amirite?
Welcome to last months news!
This is super old but yeah cant wait for MGS4,might be the only game i buy for my PS3 this year.
so hopefully it will be longer than 10hrs
This is a good idea to max out a 50gb disc. One strong positive I can see is that it will severly hinder pirates. Imagine having to download a 50gb disc? Dear Lord.
[QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]And you know this because...?
Considering they are using uncompressed 7.1 audio, I'm hardly suprised.
[QUOTE=''onex19'']This is a good idea to max out a 50gb disc. One strong positive I can see is that it will severly hinder pirates. Imagine having to download a 50gb disc? Dear Lord. [/QUOTE]Dear lord is right hell i cringe if i have to DL over 1 gig
I don't see the point of uncompressed audio :(Still getting this though since its in the same month as my birthday.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00'']Considering they are using uncompressed 7.1 audio, I'm hardly suprised. [/QUOTE]Yes!!!! Finally a use for my 7.1 surround sound!!!
[QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]
:roll: You go ahead and keep thinking that...
[QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''stvee101''] [QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]And you know this because...?[/QUOTE] Hush! He works for Konami. He knows what hes talking about!
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]
:roll: You go ahead and keep thinking that...[/QUOTE]ok then what else in the game can take so much space?
[QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]
:roll: You go ahead and keep thinking that...[/QUOTE]kolima has said it will use 7.1 losless audio which takes up a lot of space. that's fact. what else do you think they're using all the space for? good graphics can be done with little space, all the cut scenes are rendered in real time (cgi is what takes up a lot of apace), the game will be 10-15 hours (if that), so explain to me what is going to take up that much space.
[QUOTE=''onex19'']This is a good idea to max out a 50gb disc. One strong positive I can see is that it will severly hinder pirates. Imagine having to download a 50gb disc? Dear Lord. [/QUOTE]thats it? pirates? thats your main concern?all this talk, all this hype about b-ray, this game better get a 110 score or 11 or AA++, if not then whats the point in spending so much time and money just to fill a disk, I can't imagine developers going overboard just to make a game so they can boast that it will fill a B-ray disk, when the same developers can make a nice simple game on the DS and make just as much money.I have no doubt that this game will deliver, but just get the game done and stop with all the technical talk already.:D
It's true most of the space is audio but fanboys act like it's a bad thing :? it's irrelevant to the gaming experience its not like they cut out parts of the game for audio. They cut JP language big deal
[QUOTE=''stvee101''][QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]And you know this because...?[/QUOTE]Kojima's stated that it's using uncompressed 7.1 audio, and it's well known that uncompressed audio takes up orders of magnitude more space than compressed, even using high bitrates.
[QUOTE=''shoeman12''][QUOTE=''EVOLV3''][QUOTE=''shoeman12'']if it wasn't for all the uncompressed losless audio it would easily fit on one dvd9, maybe 2.[/QUOTE]
:roll: You go ahead and keep thinking that...[/QUOTE]kolima has said it will use 7.1 losless audio which takes up a lot of space. that's fact. what else do you think they're using all the space for? good graphics can be done with little space, all the cut scenes are rendered in real time (cgi is what takes up a lot of apace), the game will be 10-15 hours (if that), so explain to me what is going to take up that much space.[/QUOTE]he's not a game dev and you too. so stop talking like you are.
Will the PS# ever get an AAAe?
Last year it was sappost to be Rachet and Uncharted and this year its sappost to be mgs4 and lbp and gt5, will they get AAA, or will the PS3 have anather doomed year?Will the PS# ever get an AAAe?
It sure is doomed all right :roll:Will the PS# ever get an AAAe?
AAAe is just some weak rating made by a lifeless gametard. PS3 has great games, I play them. I dont care about ratings.
It should get one this year..I mean it has to. Just look at the number of games that are comming out and overhyped or not these are titles that cows like. So yeah chances are atleast one of them is going to be the AAAE . If It doesnt this year then I dont think the Ps3 ever get one.
teh AAAeeeeeeeezzzzzzz :cry:
i say it has a good chance of getting anywhere from 0-3 AAA this year
Who cares...If you really care what and go by what one site scores a game, I really feel sorry for you.
humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!!
[QUOTE=''ThisCurse'']AAAe is just some weak rating made by a lifeless gametard. PS3 has great games, I play them. I dont care about ratings.[/QUOTE]Yes, you do. You're on System Wars, for crying out loud! You must abide by the written laws of it.Anyway, PS3 is definitely going to get an AAA exclusive sometime in its life-span. Metal Gear Solid 4 might be the first one, but after seeing some of the scores GameSpot gave the previous ones, I wouldn't be surprised if it got an 8.5.
[QUOTE=''Chutebox'']Who cares...If you really care what and go by what one site scores a game, I really feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]noone cares what gamespot thinksit just so happens that games that score AAA on reveiw sites have a high chance of being great games
[QUOTE=''franken-fine'']Last year it was sappost to be Rachet and Uncharted and this year its sappost to be mgs4 and lbp and gt5, will they get AAA, or will the PS3 have anather doomed year?[/QUOTE]It already has AAAE, where have you been? Oh I get it, you use GS reviews. :lol:
Sappost? WTH... Supposed would be the English language word you are trying to use. Another doomed year? Hard to call 2007 a doomed year when it outsold the 360 worldwide and is doing so again so far into 2008. And 2007 was without the so called AAAE's.
[QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Your dead wrong, you forgot about MGS4.
You realize these a world beyond GS dont you?
[QUOTE=''Handin''][QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Your dead wrong, you forgot about MGS4. [/QUOTE]And GT5P and GT5!
I hope it never ever does......I hope the rest of the exclusive games on PS3 score below a 9.0 on Gamespot to show people the ridiculousness of this train of thought.Honestly, nobody cares.
[QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Yes, GOW 3 is the ONLY ps3 game that will get AAAE. I hope you were attempting sarcasm there.
I don't care what anyone thinks Uncharted is a great game regardless the score.
I see this same thread often ..... but anyway , check back in June.
[QUOTE=''l-_-l''][QUOTE=''franken-fine'']Last year it was sappost to be Rachet and Uncharted and this year its sappost to be mgs4 and lbp and gt5, will they get AAA, or will the PS3 have anather doomed year?[/QUOTE]It already has AAAE, where have you been? Oh I get it, you use GS reviews. :lol:[/QUOTE]Uncharted has an 89.800 percent average at GameRankings. If you round it, then sure, it's AAA. But why round up when you have the exact score right there? Uncharted isn't an AAA exclusive. Not that it matters, since it's only .200 away from being one, anyway, and is still a very fun game to play.
It sure is doomed all right :roll:Will the PS# ever get an AAAe?
AAAe is just some weak rating made by a lifeless gametard. PS3 has great games, I play them. I dont care about ratings.
It should get one this year..I mean it has to. Just look at the number of games that are comming out and overhyped or not these are titles that cows like. So yeah chances are atleast one of them is going to be the AAAE . If It doesnt this year then I dont think the Ps3 ever get one.
teh AAAeeeeeeeezzzzzzz :cry:
i say it has a good chance of getting anywhere from 0-3 AAA this year
Who cares...If you really care what and go by what one site scores a game, I really feel sorry for you.
humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!!
[QUOTE=''ThisCurse'']AAAe is just some weak rating made by a lifeless gametard. PS3 has great games, I play them. I dont care about ratings.[/QUOTE]Yes, you do. You're on System Wars, for crying out loud! You must abide by the written laws of it.Anyway, PS3 is definitely going to get an AAA exclusive sometime in its life-span. Metal Gear Solid 4 might be the first one, but after seeing some of the scores GameSpot gave the previous ones, I wouldn't be surprised if it got an 8.5.
[QUOTE=''Chutebox'']Who cares...If you really care what and go by what one site scores a game, I really feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]noone cares what gamespot thinksit just so happens that games that score AAA on reveiw sites have a high chance of being great games
[QUOTE=''franken-fine'']Last year it was sappost to be Rachet and Uncharted and this year its sappost to be mgs4 and lbp and gt5, will they get AAA, or will the PS3 have anather doomed year?[/QUOTE]It already has AAAE, where have you been? Oh I get it, you use GS reviews. :lol:
Sappost? WTH... Supposed would be the English language word you are trying to use. Another doomed year? Hard to call 2007 a doomed year when it outsold the 360 worldwide and is doing so again so far into 2008. And 2007 was without the so called AAAE's.
[QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Your dead wrong, you forgot about MGS4.
You realize these a world beyond GS dont you?
[QUOTE=''Handin''][QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Your dead wrong, you forgot about MGS4. [/QUOTE]And GT5P and GT5!
I hope it never ever does......I hope the rest of the exclusive games on PS3 score below a 9.0 on Gamespot to show people the ridiculousness of this train of thought.Honestly, nobody cares.
[QUOTE=''PAL360'']humm...maybe god of war 3! but its the only one!![/QUOTE]Yes, GOW 3 is the ONLY ps3 game that will get AAAE. I hope you were attempting sarcasm there.
I don't care what anyone thinks Uncharted is a great game regardless the score.
I see this same thread often ..... but anyway , check back in June.
[QUOTE=''l-_-l''][QUOTE=''franken-fine'']Last year it was sappost to be Rachet and Uncharted and this year its sappost to be mgs4 and lbp and gt5, will they get AAA, or will the PS3 have anather doomed year?[/QUOTE]It already has AAAE, where have you been? Oh I get it, you use GS reviews. :lol:[/QUOTE]Uncharted has an 89.800 percent average at GameRankings. If you round it, then sure, it's AAA. But why round up when you have the exact score right there? Uncharted isn't an AAA exclusive. Not that it matters, since it's only .200 away from being one, anyway, and is still a very fun game to play.
GT Prologue Pre-orders Reach One Million ...
GT Prologue Pre-orders Reach One Million Posted on March 15th, 2008 by Brianemone ![]()
While crashing and doing donuts mid circuit the other day in GT Prologue I had a chat with SCEE NZ's Marketing Manager Dave Hine and Paul Gunn (PR Extraordinaire) about the sales figures for GT Prologue and whether they thought the online would outsell the hard copy on Blu Disc. They expressed their surprise at the popularity of War Hawk as down-loadable software and said that they anticipated GT to receive an even warmer welcome when it comes out later this month.Also mentioned in the conversation was that the pre-order figures for the SCEE regions show orders already at one million. Making the PS3's first pre release Platinum title.GT Prologue Pre-orders Reach One Million ...
Im one of those :DGT Prologue Pre-orders Reach One Million ...
Damn... Just for a demo? Wow.
See, now GT is another league to any other racing game. Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.
And that's only in Europe :o
milkage at its best
Got to hand it to the GT fans... they are without a doubt, one of the most dedicated factions in gaming I believe.
i wonder if they all realized it was just a demo...
[QUOTE=''Cedmln'']Damn... Just for a demo? Wow.[/QUOTE]but thats the thing its not. GT prologue is more than a demo, its more like a beta or something, but certainly more than a demo
wow. how can people even enjoy driving simulators? i played project gotham once, and after the 20th time i'd crashed into the same wall, i realised that if you want to drive realisticly, just drive a car.
[QUOTE=''leejohnson7'']Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.[/QUOTE] Well, I was playing Forza for 8 month and finished GT 4 at 10% cause it was totally boring for anybody who knows how to drive.What I did wrong?
i think im going to preorder
[QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?
Why can't lems get over the fact the GT: Prologue is not a demo. The demo was on the JP store for free. This is a fair priced Prologue for $40 60+ cars 5 tracks, online, what else do you want?
[QUOTE=''f50p90'']what else do you want?[/QUOTE]300 cars and 45 tracks for 60$
[QUOTE=''hayato_''][QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?[/QUOTE]he doesnt kno he just comes in here to troll
[QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE]No, ? for some gamerpictures on top of an anual fee for stuff you already own (a connection to the internet and hardware that does it for you) is milkage at it's best. This however shows which driving game people really like.
[QUOTE=''goddamn_''][QUOTE=''leejohnson7'']Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.[/QUOTE] Well, I was playing Forza for 8 month and finished GT 4 at 10% cause it was totally boring for anybody who knows how to drive.What I did wrong?[/QUOTE]GT has everything done better, except the half done unrealistic damage. Even the AI got worse in Forza.
[QUOTE=''hayato_''][QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?[/QUOTE] umm u`ll end up paying 100 (without tax) for a whole game o.O sounds like milkage to me...well for those who actually though of buying this demo
[QUOTE=''leejohnson7''] No, ? for some gamerpictures on top of an anual fee for stuff you already own (a connection to the internet and hardware that does it for you) is milkage at it's best. This however shows which driving game people really like. [/QUOTE]I know worse. If you don't pay for XBL, you are not allowed to download demos, only one week after they were released.M$
Im one of those :DGT Prologue Pre-orders Reach One Million ...
Damn... Just for a demo? Wow.
See, now GT is another league to any other racing game. Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.
And that's only in Europe :o
milkage at its best
Got to hand it to the GT fans... they are without a doubt, one of the most dedicated factions in gaming I believe.
i wonder if they all realized it was just a demo...
[QUOTE=''Cedmln'']Damn... Just for a demo? Wow.[/QUOTE]but thats the thing its not. GT prologue is more than a demo, its more like a beta or something, but certainly more than a demo
wow. how can people even enjoy driving simulators? i played project gotham once, and after the 20th time i'd crashed into the same wall, i realised that if you want to drive realisticly, just drive a car.
[QUOTE=''leejohnson7'']Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.[/QUOTE] Well, I was playing Forza for 8 month and finished GT 4 at 10% cause it was totally boring for anybody who knows how to drive.What I did wrong?
i think im going to preorder
[QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?
Why can't lems get over the fact the GT: Prologue is not a demo. The demo was on the JP store for free. This is a fair priced Prologue for $40 60+ cars 5 tracks, online, what else do you want?
[QUOTE=''f50p90'']what else do you want?[/QUOTE]300 cars and 45 tracks for 60$
[QUOTE=''hayato_''][QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?[/QUOTE]he doesnt kno he just comes in here to troll
[QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE]No, ? for some gamerpictures on top of an anual fee for stuff you already own (a connection to the internet and hardware that does it for you) is milkage at it's best. This however shows which driving game people really like.
[QUOTE=''goddamn_''][QUOTE=''leejohnson7'']Forza is a game you play ten minutes before you go out on a friday night, while GT is something you sit back and marvel at.[/QUOTE] Well, I was playing Forza for 8 month and finished GT 4 at 10% cause it was totally boring for anybody who knows how to drive.What I did wrong?[/QUOTE]GT has everything done better, except the half done unrealistic damage. Even the AI got worse in Forza.
[QUOTE=''hayato_''][QUOTE=''gohan2710'']milkage at its best[/QUOTE] There not forcing you to buy it. How is it milkage?[/QUOTE] umm u`ll end up paying 100 (without tax) for a whole game o.O sounds like milkage to me...well for those who actually though of buying this demo
[QUOTE=''leejohnson7''] No, ? for some gamerpictures on top of an anual fee for stuff you already own (a connection to the internet and hardware that does it for you) is milkage at it's best. This however shows which driving game people really like. [/QUOTE]I know worse. If you don't pay for XBL, you are not allowed to download demos, only one week after they were released.M$
What would it like to have version of SS ...
Well just not call it SSBB call it something else like ''insert name.'' Imagine all the favorites character from the Xbox and PS franchise come together and brawl....Master Chief, Snake, Ratchet %26 Clank, Jak Daxter, Fenix, Kratos, Crash, Banjoo Kazooie, Lara Croft, put some Street Figher characters, Marvel Characters and even DC characters... etc.. if you have any other idea which character to use for Brawl version for this multiplat for PS3 and 360. And what would you name this game?What would it like to have version of SS ...
Super sucky game Brawl.What would it like to have version of SS ...
I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.
m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.
[QUOTE=''EndlessGame'']I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''jangojay'']m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.[/QUOTE] Yea but Sony and MS can come together on this.. and there would be even more characters... make it into a multiplat games for PS3 and 360...
PS3: Subsistance FightersXbox 360: Rival Worlds... just woke up.
[QUOTE=''aka_aj03''][QUOTE=''EndlessGame'']I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''jangojay'']m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.[/QUOTE] Yea but Sony and MS can come together on this.. and there would be even more characters... make it into a multiplat games for PS3 and 360...[/QUOTE] It would be nice to see such a high cooperation level from Ms and SCEI for the sake of gaming : )
No thanks. I'll stick to the original.
Super Manly Clash of Steroid Using Mega Men Fighting for Ultimate Glory and Manliness!Pretty catchy, huh?
they have a game like that... it's called soul caliber...they threw some star wars dudes in it.. yet it will still come nowhere near brawl... team sora have the perfect fighting engine and balance hands down..
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The only benefit of SSBB being on the PS3, considering most people prefer the GameCube controller to play it, would be even more content on top of the content, considering it would be on a Blu-Ray disc...
Microsoft and Sony's mascots aren't really meant for fighting games. Something tells me that pitting Master Chief and Jak and Daxter together for a fight is just stupid.
Finally the question about who wins a battle between Master Chief and Snake could be answered.
[QUOTE=''Killer_Wuggles'']Microsoft and Sony's mascots aren't really meant for fighting games. Something tells me that pitting Master Chief and Jak and Daxter together for a fight is just stupid.[/QUOTE] what about Snake vs Mario in SSBB... i thought this game is all about fun... isn't it? So Master Chief vs Jak would be fun.
man wars
360 has it... it's called Small Arms, and it's very dull and boring at that.
Nah, if they made it they would go for a realistic fighter brawl... like SUper Street Fighter Brawl or Viritua Fighter Brawl, Tekken BRawl... I hate that kind of fighting games (no offense fight' fans) anyways SSBB is unique and can't be reproduced.
Can you imagine:Master Chief vs. Solid Snake?EPIC
Super Crap Brothers?
Super sucky game Brawl.What would it like to have version of SS ...
I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.
m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.
[QUOTE=''EndlessGame'']I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''jangojay'']m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.[/QUOTE] Yea but Sony and MS can come together on this.. and there would be even more characters... make it into a multiplat games for PS3 and 360...
PS3: Subsistance FightersXbox 360: Rival Worlds... just woke up.
[QUOTE=''aka_aj03''][QUOTE=''EndlessGame'']I can see Sony doing this, as they have accumulated enough recognizable characters over the years, but I don't think MS has enough characters people would buy into to make this sort of game. It would be natural for the console maker to actually make the game, rather than a third party, since they already have dealings with all the studios involved in the games being made. Besides, isn't Dissidia: Final Fantasy from SE kinda like this but with the FF characters? That could be pretty awesome.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''jangojay'']m$ doesn't have enough characters. Sony does though.[/QUOTE] Yea but Sony and MS can come together on this.. and there would be even more characters... make it into a multiplat games for PS3 and 360...[/QUOTE] It would be nice to see such a high cooperation level from Ms and SCEI for the sake of gaming : )
No thanks. I'll stick to the original.
Super Manly Clash of Steroid Using Mega Men Fighting for Ultimate Glory and Manliness!Pretty catchy, huh?
they have a game like that... it's called soul caliber...they threw some star wars dudes in it.. yet it will still come nowhere near brawl... team sora have the perfect fighting engine and balance hands down..
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
The only benefit of SSBB being on the PS3, considering most people prefer the GameCube controller to play it, would be even more content on top of the content, considering it would be on a Blu-Ray disc...
Microsoft and Sony's mascots aren't really meant for fighting games. Something tells me that pitting Master Chief and Jak and Daxter together for a fight is just stupid.
Finally the question about who wins a battle between Master Chief and Snake could be answered.
[QUOTE=''Killer_Wuggles'']Microsoft and Sony's mascots aren't really meant for fighting games. Something tells me that pitting Master Chief and Jak and Daxter together for a fight is just stupid.[/QUOTE] what about Snake vs Mario in SSBB... i thought this game is all about fun... isn't it? So Master Chief vs Jak would be fun.
man wars
360 has it... it's called Small Arms, and it's very dull and boring at that.
Nah, if they made it they would go for a realistic fighter brawl... like SUper Street Fighter Brawl or Viritua Fighter Brawl, Tekken BRawl... I hate that kind of fighting games (no offense fight' fans) anyways SSBB is unique and can't be reproduced.
Can you imagine:Master Chief vs. Solid Snake?EPIC
Super Crap Brothers?
Lol Jeff Gertsmann!
http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.Lol Jeff Gertsmann!
[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Lol Jeff Gertsmann!
i don't think he gives out half star ratings. just live with it.
Fair review, sounds about right for the game.It's broken and buggy in some areas (having to delete all your info to make the online work fully? Great job Nintendo!)How it got a 9.5 and a plus was that it mostly worked online? lol
Ya..it's official, Gertsmann is anti-Nintendo.
Everyone has to think it is a AAA title or they will be lolled at.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan'']http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]he gets paid for what he does, what do you get paid to follow him around and talk crap about him?
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Impossible!
Oh crap... :| a great score can't just be accepted?Damn you fanboys are never pleased are you?
It's either 4/5 stars or 5/5 stars. Personally I would've chossed 5/5 but still he seems to not think the game is not perfect. Also... don't forget that rating a game out of 5 is much more difficult than rating it out of 100... The star system jumps by 20%, the normal jumps by 1% .They really should set a universal standard scale of game rating.
Who cares really.
[QUOTE=''shoeman12'']i don't think he gives out half star ratings. just live with it.[/QUOTE]Well he should. A 1-5 with no .5 increments is a heavily flawed rating system.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan'']http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.
4/5? isn't that the equivalent to 9/10? you're not happy with that? great as it may be, SSBB isn't the greatest game ever made. it doesn't deserve a perfect 10, it has it's flaws.
Oh, how cute... he has his own website now.
lol, seems like the TC is a stalker
[QUOTE=''GUNpoint_'']4/5? isn't that the equivalent to 9/10? you're not happy with that? great as it may be, SSBB isn't the greatest game ever made. it doesn't deserve a perfect 10, it has it's flaws.[/QUOTE]4/5 is 80 percent.
[QUOTE=''sirk1264''][QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''] http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.[/QUOTE]4/5= 80%, but because his system apparently has no half-stars, it could have been a 9/10. Who knows.
It's a 5 star system. Get over it. Not like the review counts for anything, and it already got AAA here.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''][QUOTE=''sirk1264''][QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''] http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.[/QUOTE]4/5= 80%, but because his system apparently has no half-stars, it could have been a 9/10. Who knows.[/QUOTE]8/10 is still high quality. You're obviously brainwashed by System Wars.
[This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Lol Jeff Gertsmann!
i don't think he gives out half star ratings. just live with it.
Fair review, sounds about right for the game.It's broken and buggy in some areas (having to delete all your info to make the online work fully? Great job Nintendo!)How it got a 9.5 and a plus was that it mostly worked online? lol
Ya..it's official, Gertsmann is anti-Nintendo.
Everyone has to think it is a AAA title or they will be lolled at.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan'']http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]he gets paid for what he does, what do you get paid to follow him around and talk crap about him?
Oh crap... :| a great score can't just be accepted?Damn you fanboys are never pleased are you?
It's either 4/5 stars or 5/5 stars. Personally I would've chossed 5/5 but still he seems to not think the game is not perfect. Also... don't forget that rating a game out of 5 is much more difficult than rating it out of 100... The star system jumps by 20%, the normal jumps by 1% .They really should set a universal standard scale of game rating.
Who cares really.
[QUOTE=''shoeman12'']i don't think he gives out half star ratings. just live with it.[/QUOTE]Well he should. A 1-5 with no .5 increments is a heavily flawed rating system.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan'']http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.
4/5? isn't that the equivalent to 9/10? you're not happy with that? great as it may be, SSBB isn't the greatest game ever made. it doesn't deserve a perfect 10, it has it's flaws.
Oh, how cute... he has his own website now.
lol, seems like the TC is a stalker
[QUOTE=''GUNpoint_'']4/5? isn't that the equivalent to 9/10? you're not happy with that? great as it may be, SSBB isn't the greatest game ever made. it doesn't deserve a perfect 10, it has it's flaws.[/QUOTE]4/5 is 80 percent.
[QUOTE=''sirk1264''][QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''] http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.[/QUOTE]4/5= 80%, but because his system apparently has no half-stars, it could have been a 9/10. Who knows.
It's a 5 star system. Get over it. Not like the review counts for anything, and it already got AAA here.
[QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''][QUOTE=''sirk1264''][QUOTE=''Super-Mario-Fan''] http://www.giantbomb.com/He gave Smash Bros. Brawl a 4/5. Seriously, is this some kind of joke? Something tells me he would have rated it an 8.0 on here if he reviewed it.[/QUOTE]So your going to get upset because one person didn't rate it a 9.5. How lame. He has his own opinion and you have yours so stop looking like an idiot and get over it.[/QUOTE]4/5= 80%, but because his system apparently has no half-stars, it could have been a 9/10. Who knows.[/QUOTE]8/10 is still high quality. You're obviously brainwashed by System Wars.
free, ad supported games making a huge p ...
already we have BattleField Heroes (which looks like it could have been made into a full retail game), and Quake Live.....but now...we got a new one...and not just any random game...but a Succesor to the tribes francise. Also free.[URL]http://www.joystiq.com/2008/03/14/fallen-empire-legions-or-reminder-to-enter-our-instantaction/[/URL]for a browser based game....these are some amazing graphics.free, ad supported games making a huge p ...
Free game just for supporting ads? Yay!free, ad supported games making a huge p ...
Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?
[QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II'']Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE]nope its free....just go to their website and sign up..their are already like 3 or 4 multiplayer games aviable up their.
IIt won't be free beyond the initial beta period, Instant Action isn't fully free, a lot of games on it will require payment and while we don't know how much FL will cost it will cost something and it's not ''adds/microtransactions'' based game like QuakeZero and BF:Heroes
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''][QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II''] Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE] nope its free.... just go to their website and sign up..their are already like 3 or 4 multiplayer games aviable up their.[/QUOTE] Just did it.It's cool, but there isn't enough games right now. Hopefully it comes out of beta soon.
I can't wait for Quake Live. It's gonna be so awesome. And free!
[QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II'']Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE] The InstantAction service is free, and most of the games will be free, but, if you want to, you can use ActionTokens, which ''are the currency used on InstantAction to unlock new games, levels, maps, weapons, special abilities and much more.'' Also, ''full featured game titles will eventually be available for unlocking for as low as 600 ActionTokens.''I think ActionTokens can be attained by inviting people to the service and by playing InstantAction games.
ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.
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I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?
[QUOTE=''noswear'']ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.[/QUOTE]So you don't pay for cable ?
[QUOTE=''azad_champ'']I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]It didnt work for Yahoo either, I had to use my Gmail account.
[QUOTE=''turgore''][QUOTE=''noswear'']ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.[/QUOTE]So you don't pay for cable ?[/QUOTE]he ment paying for specific TV shows....you pay for your internet as well.
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''][QUOTE=''azad_champ''] I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?[/QUOTE] It didnt work for Yahoo either, I had to use my Gmail account.[/QUOTE] I used Gmail too and got it right away.
Free ad-supported PC games.Where's your God now, console fanboys? JK :Pstop blackheads
Free game just for supporting ads? Yay!free, ad supported games making a huge p ...
Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?
[QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II'']Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE]nope its free....just go to their website and sign up..their are already like 3 or 4 multiplayer games aviable up their.
IIt won't be free beyond the initial beta period, Instant Action isn't fully free, a lot of games on it will require payment and while we don't know how much FL will cost it will cost something and it's not ''adds/microtransactions'' based game like QuakeZero and BF:Heroes
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''][QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II''] Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE] nope its free.... just go to their website and sign up..their are already like 3 or 4 multiplayer games aviable up their.[/QUOTE] Just did it.It's cool, but there isn't enough games right now. Hopefully it comes out of beta soon.
I can't wait for Quake Live. It's gonna be so awesome. And free!
[QUOTE=''II-FBIsniper-II'']Looks cool.Do you have to pay for instant action?[/QUOTE] The InstantAction service is free, and most of the games will be free, but, if you want to, you can use ActionTokens, which ''are the currency used on InstantAction to unlock new games, levels, maps, weapons, special abilities and much more.'' Also, ''full featured game titles will eventually be available for unlocking for as low as 600 ActionTokens.''I think ActionTokens can be attained by inviting people to the service and by playing InstantAction games.
ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.
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I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?
[QUOTE=''noswear'']ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.[/QUOTE]So you don't pay for cable ?
[QUOTE=''azad_champ'']I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]It didnt work for Yahoo either, I had to use my Gmail account.
[QUOTE=''turgore''][QUOTE=''noswear'']ads on TV are annoying, but without them, I'd have to pay! :oanyway, ads in games should mean cheaper or free, which can only be good.[/QUOTE]So you don't pay for cable ?[/QUOTE]he ment paying for specific TV shows....you pay for your internet as well.
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''][QUOTE=''azad_champ''] I'm having trouble getting my confirmation mail. I have hotmail and i've waited about 30 minutes. Usually these things take about a minute. Is this normal?[/QUOTE] It didnt work for Yahoo either, I had to use my Gmail account.[/QUOTE] I used Gmail too and got it right away.
Free ad-supported PC games.Where's your God now, console fanboys? JK :P
Most anticipated unannounced game..
what game thats ur lookin forward the most that will eventually be announed.mine is KINGDOM HEARTS III!! FTW!!i would be more excited about this if another zelda is announced , THAT MUCH!Most anticipated unannounced game..
Uncharted 2Most anticipated unannounced game..
Metal Gear Ocelot or how it will be called :)
Final Fantasy 14 :P
Golden Sun 3
Some Star Wars game.
Dk platformer.
zelda wii.
Final Fantasy XIV
The next Bungie Shooter
Legend of Zelda Wii
Half Life 3(its gonna happen)
Donkey Kong Platformer made by the super mario galaxy team(i can dream)
Jet Force Gemini 2 by Rare(it could happen)
Earthbound Wii(yep definantly)
Diablo 3(COME ON BLIZZARD)
Timesplitters 4
The next Starfox. The on-rails flying would work great with the Wii-mote.
I'd like to see another Jet Set game. JSRF was probably one of my favorite Xbox games behind Halo CE and Ghost recon.
Diablo 3 WTF
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Sim Universe. The GOTY of 2020.
Why is there no more love for GS3?:cry:
Kingdom Hearts 3 without a doubt, sheep want it, cows want it, leemings want it, but most of all fans want it lol
dead rising 2 hopefully and a new perfect dark
Eternal Darkness 2
Since KH3 has already been said;Sly 4 and Jak 4
Uncharted 2Most anticipated unannounced game..
Metal Gear Ocelot or how it will be called :)
Final Fantasy 14 :P
Golden Sun 3
Some Star Wars game.
Dk platformer.
zelda wii.
Final Fantasy XIV
The next Bungie Shooter
Legend of Zelda Wii
Half Life 3(its gonna happen)
Donkey Kong Platformer made by the super mario galaxy team(i can dream)
Jet Force Gemini 2 by Rare(it could happen)
Earthbound Wii(yep definantly)
Diablo 3(COME ON BLIZZARD)
Timesplitters 4
The next Starfox. The on-rails flying would work great with the Wii-mote.
I'd like to see another Jet Set game. JSRF was probably one of my favorite Xbox games behind Halo CE and Ghost recon.
Diablo 3 WTF
...
Sim Universe. The GOTY of 2020.
Why is there no more love for GS3?:cry:
Kingdom Hearts 3 without a doubt, sheep want it, cows want it, leemings want it, but most of all fans want it lol
dead rising 2 hopefully and a new perfect dark
Eternal Darkness 2
Since KH3 has already been said;Sly 4 and Jak 4
Mafia 2 or GTA 4?
Which one do you think you would like more?I choose Mafia 2 because I like the setting of the game more, even though I didn't like Mafia 1 muchMafia 2 or GTA 4?
Mafia 2 by far imo...GTA4 will be absolutely amazing no doubt... but Mafia just had so much more style, better feel and better story :)Mafia 2 or GTA 4?
gta iv will set the standard
gta4 for me. but i must admit i don't know that much about Mafia2.. so i need to inform myself alittle bit better...
both are totally different games.in gta u have these engaging/fun side missions with no overall storyin mafia u have a brialliant story.
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']gta iv will set the standard[/QUOTE]What standerd?
In my opinion the original Mafia is better than any GTA game, so Im more excited about Mafia 2. But since it will take at least another year before it gets released its not really possible to compare the two.
MAfia 2
Mafia is my favorite game of all time, but... but I had so much fun playing every single GTA game that came out. You cannot make me take a decission like that :P
Mafia is more story driven game than GTA, GTA is more fun to play when you finish the story, GTA has better gameplay, so GTA is better.Both are going to be amazing games.I liked Mafia because the setting of the game also, who doesn't like being a member of the Mafia?One of the best missions in Mafia was the one where there was a deal going on, on a rainy night inside a farm, it was so intense.
Mafia 2 for me. I liked the setting more.
gta4
Mafia 2: linear, period soundtrack (1940s), well constructed story, excellent action sequences, living world. Plus you have to follow traffic laws (not necessarily a bad thing).GTA4: open ended, modern soundtrack (today and yesterday), simple story, simple action sequences, living world. New and promising wanted level system. GTA4 for me. Imo the living world in GTA is better, although mafia is a better linear experience
GTA4 but if mafia 2 can capture that mafioso feel like it did with the first one i won't be disappointed
Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?
For me, Mafia II. I likes me some tommygun action. 8)
[QUOTE=''Lonelynight'']Which one do you think you would like more?I choose Mafia 2 because I like the setting of the game more, even though I didn't like Mafia 1 much[/QUOTE]GTA by far, however Mafia is amazing Its the next best thing there is to a GTA. The storyline is much more memorable than any of the GTA.. but however, just reading whats comming on GTA (multiplayer, non linear, etc) it seems like GTA will be better.Sure 2kGames are tightlipped about the upcomming project.. but im sure Mafia 2 will be amazing.. im just curious to see what features they will add in.
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?[/QUOTE]Its multiplat, PC/360/PS3
GTA 4
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?[/QUOTE]you played the console version didnt you?
Mafia 2 by far imo...GTA4 will be absolutely amazing no doubt... but Mafia just had so much more style, better feel and better story :)Mafia 2 or GTA 4?
gta iv will set the standard
gta4 for me. but i must admit i don't know that much about Mafia2.. so i need to inform myself alittle bit better...
both are totally different games.in gta u have these engaging/fun side missions with no overall storyin mafia u have a brialliant story.
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']gta iv will set the standard[/QUOTE]What standerd?
In my opinion the original Mafia is better than any GTA game, so Im more excited about Mafia 2. But since it will take at least another year before it gets released its not really possible to compare the two.
MAfia 2
Mafia is my favorite game of all time, but... but I had so much fun playing every single GTA game that came out. You cannot make me take a decission like that :P
Mafia is more story driven game than GTA, GTA is more fun to play when you finish the story, GTA has better gameplay, so GTA is better.Both are going to be amazing games.I liked Mafia because the setting of the game also, who doesn't like being a member of the Mafia?One of the best missions in Mafia was the one where there was a deal going on, on a rainy night inside a farm, it was so intense.
Mafia 2 for me. I liked the setting more.
gta4
Mafia 2: linear, period soundtrack (1940s), well constructed story, excellent action sequences, living world. Plus you have to follow traffic laws (not necessarily a bad thing).GTA4: open ended, modern soundtrack (today and yesterday), simple story, simple action sequences, living world. New and promising wanted level system. GTA4 for me. Imo the living world in GTA is better, although mafia is a better linear experience
GTA4 but if mafia 2 can capture that mafioso feel like it did with the first one i won't be disappointed
Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?
For me, Mafia II. I likes me some tommygun action. 8)
[QUOTE=''Lonelynight'']Which one do you think you would like more?I choose Mafia 2 because I like the setting of the game more, even though I didn't like Mafia 1 much[/QUOTE]GTA by far, however Mafia is amazing Its the next best thing there is to a GTA. The storyline is much more memorable than any of the GTA.. but however, just reading whats comming on GTA (multiplayer, non linear, etc) it seems like GTA will be better.Sure 2kGames are tightlipped about the upcomming project.. but im sure Mafia 2 will be amazing.. im just curious to see what features they will add in.
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?[/QUOTE]Its multiplat, PC/360/PS3
GTA 4
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']Lol, how is Mafia 2 even keeping up with GTA, You guys must have played a different Mafia 1 than I did, I played the one with the 25 mph car chases and bad on foot sections.There has to be more to this story, is Mafia2 an exclusive or something?[/QUOTE]you played the console version didnt you?
XBox 360 and Piracy
So, Rainbow Six Vegas 2 has been leaked, and people are playing it way before the release day (3/18/08). Of course, this isn't the first game to be leaked earlly by the 360, in fact many titles for the 360 are released the weekend before the actual launch date. This only goes to show, console piracy is also a problem on consoles. However, for some reason it seems to fly under the radar of gaming news. Why? You tell me.edit: To clear up some confusion: The game was leaked about an hour before I posted this thread.Also, 360 pirates do not get banned from XBL playing a pirated version of their game -- which is a common misconception when PC piracy and 360 piracy is compared with each other. XBox 360 and Piracy
Does online work? They should be banned.Goes under radar because doesn't affect it as much as the simplicity of PC piracy. Also, you never know when MS will strike back. XBox 360 and Piracy
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes.
well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent
[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE]
And I know tons of people who refuse to pirate a single PC game. Annecdotal evidence is never a good indicator. PC games are selling great, even without DRM on the games. Its funny that a game without any copyright protection is the top selling PC game on the market, and one of the best selling games of the last few months.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but no one should be playing it at the moment, so we know 99% of those are leaked copies.
[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it.
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How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.
Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.[/QUOTE] The game just is on the internet, and people are downloading it as we speak. So, yes it has a lot to do with piracy.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.
Most pirates get banned from xbox live.Thats why piracy is very low on the 360.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console is modded, you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated, since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you. [/QUOTE]I know that..The lie is that nobody plays on pirated servers. That's total BS and you know it.especially since they are so easy to set up.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console if modded you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.[/QUOTE] Haha. Dude, I don't want to go into detail because it's against the TOS, but you do not need a modchip to play pirated 360 games. This is precisely why you can play on XBL without getting banned, since it XBL piracy detection thinks it's a legit copy of the game.What kind of proof would you like me to provide, other then the ''release'' name I just pasted. Anything that isn't against the TOS, I will provide.
[QUOTE=''XaosII''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?[/QUOTE]I'm not doubting that people are downloading the game. Hell, I KNOW that's happening. But are they playing them on live? Playing the single player on a modded system..Yes. Multplayer on live? That's a bit more sketchy.
Does online work? They should be banned.Goes under radar because doesn't affect it as much as the simplicity of PC piracy. Also, you never know when MS will strike back. XBox 360 and Piracy
[QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes.
well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent
[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE]
And I know tons of people who refuse to pirate a single PC game. Annecdotal evidence is never a good indicator. PC games are selling great, even without DRM on the games. Its funny that a game without any copyright protection is the top selling PC game on the market, and one of the best selling games of the last few months.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''EuroMafia'']Does online work? They should be banned.[/QUOTE] Actually, no. You don't get banned for playing on XBL with a pirated version of the game, unless you have no idea what you are doing. The 360 hacks that let you play online deter the XBL piracy detection schemes. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but no one should be playing it at the moment, so we know 99% of those are leaked copies.
[QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it.
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How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.
Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?
[QUOTE=''Riverwolf007'']How much of this really has anything to do with piracy? I've seen retailers that don't know what street dates are about release games early many many times.Best Buy's policy seems to be put it on the shelf as soon as anything comes in. In particular I specifically remember the big deal it was when they released SW Battlefront early.It seems someone always sells nearly every title with a launch date early.[/QUOTE] The game just is on the internet, and people are downloading it as we speak. So, yes it has a lot to do with piracy.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.
Most pirates get banned from xbox live.Thats why piracy is very low on the 360.
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console is modded, you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated, since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.
[QUOTE=''rimnet00''][QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''thegoldenpoo'']well i must say that console pricy is at a very low level compared to the old days of chiped ps2's so it ISN'T realy that bigger problem. piricy on the pc is rampant, i know people who don't even have one pc game they didn't download from a torrent[/QUOTE] How do you say that, considering it's cheaper and easier to hack a 360, versus paying someone to chip a PS2? I would argue that the 360 has a higher piracy rate then the DreamCast... yes the system that had a bootloading CD.Also note, the main difference between PC piracy and 360 piracy is, 360 pirates can play online with their games, while PC pirates have to resort to playing with other PC pirates on special servers -- which usually consists on no one. So generally with a game like COD4, RS:V, etc... people PC pirates will tend to still buy the game, to play online. That is not the case with the 360, since they have a full working copy that is no different then someone who bought it. [/QUOTE]That's a flat out lie. Seriously, there is absolutely NO truth in that whatsoever.[/QUOTE] Excuse me, it is not a lie. That is absolutely how it works. PC games that are pirated can not be cracked to play on normal servers, because these games have server-side key authentication. Unless you have a legit key, the servers won't let you play on them since the master server will boot you. [/QUOTE]I know that..The lie is that nobody plays on pirated servers. That's total BS and you know it.especially since they are so easy to set up.
[QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?
[QUOTE=''heretrix''][QUOTE=''rimnet00''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE] Yes, I'm sure. Itt just got leaked. [/QUOTE]Where's your proof? Because last I heard, the only way you can play pirated games on your 360 is if you modded your console and if your console if modded you can't play on XBL.I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I have my doubts that the game people are playing is pirated since the release date is this week. Usually those people are playing retail copies obtained through broken street dates.I'm not saying that you are lying, but that's a pretty strong accusation to throw out with no proof.[/QUOTE] Haha. Dude, I don't want to go into detail because it's against the TOS, but you do not need a modchip to play pirated 360 games. This is precisely why you can play on XBL without getting banned, since it XBL piracy detection thinks it's a legit copy of the game.What kind of proof would you like me to provide, other then the ''release'' name I just pasted. Anything that isn't against the TOS, I will provide.
[QUOTE=''XaosII''] [QUOTE=''heretrix'']Are you sure it's piracy and not stores ignoring the ''street'' date?[/QUOTE]Its not. Im seeing them already. Also Condemed 2 for the 360 with over 650 downloads. :?[/QUOTE]I'm not doubting that people are downloading the game. Hell, I KNOW that's happening. But are they playing them on live? Playing the single player on a modded system..Yes. Multplayer on live? That's a bit more sketchy.
Is Okami really as good as Zelda?
When Okami was first announced for the wii I was set on buying it. I looked at the video footage for the wii version and I'm not impressed. Looks exacally like the PS2 version. The fighting looks boreing because when you fight it goes into that arena. With SSBB just out, GTA IV out in April as well as Mario Kart Wii is this game worth checking out? Is it really that good?Is Okami really as good as Zelda?
imo, Okami is better.Is Okami really as good as Zelda?
Better IMHO.
You were unimpressed by how it looked like the ps2 version? you do realize it is a port right? I am unimpressed with your post.I for one am buying it again. i loved the game. It was my pick for GOTY 06. I cant wait to control the celistial bursh with the wiimote. All the previews say it works so much better than the orginal dual analog controls. It is deffinatly worth playing through again, that is how good it is. I would say it is as good as a Zelda game. I walk not rank it up with Majoras mask or link to the past (my two favs.) but it would stand its ground against twighlight princess and windwaker.
not as good as zelda IMO, but still a great game and worth playing
Nothing does the Zelda formula better than Zelda: FACT.
Depends on who you ask. Is Okami better than all the Zelda games.......probably not. Zelda: LttP is one of my all time favorite games. However, Okami is my favorite PS2 game, and better than the recent iterations of Zelda IMO. So I'd say Okami is AT LEAST as good as Zelda. Give it a shot.
If you could be bothered playing Zelda you won't be dissapointed by Okami, its pretty much what Zelda should be by now.
Okami is great, better than some Zelda games (more recent iterations). I played through the PS2 version, but will probably buy the Wii version to play it again.
I would skip SSBB and play Okami if it came down to one , but that is just me.
I have only played through a 3rd of the game, so i can't answer this with an absolute, but most reviewers said that it came pretty close to a Zelda ''clone'' but still not quite. This was mostly due to Zelda's overwhelmingly better gameplay, dungeons, and level design. The story and graphics may be better subjectively...But I would still say that Zelda is king for this type of game.....Look at gamerankings Zelda/9.5..... Okami/9.0.To the topic creator: I would still definitely buy this game. I stopped playing it on the PS2 because I wanted to play it on the Wii. In fact, I would put this type of game miles ahead of such games as the GTA series for art design and originality alone.
Ive never played Okami, so I cant give a Un biased opinon.
I thought Okami was better. Although it got a little off the wall at the end it was still one of the most epic games I've ever played. Nothing quite like being a god.
[QUOTE=''shaggygrosser'']imo, Okami is better.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
Well i consider Okami to be the third best game i have ever played. Zelda isn't even among my top 50.
The fighting does get rather repetitive, but it's also entirely avoidable in most non-dungeon cases, so it's only a problem if you make it a problem. Zelda is probably a bit better in terms of level design and combat, but Okami feels way more original thanks to the art style and brush-stroke mechanic, and its story is far ahead of what Zelda has been doing (not that that's hard).
Which Zelda game? Okami was really good, maybe better than Windwaker...
Okami > ZeldaTP imo.
More refreshing yes.
But overall Zelda usually does and is better. TP was just too much of a rehash.Still a 9.0 but atleast Okami felt refreshing.
The last Zelda game I've really played was Windwaker, and I can say that Okami is better.
imo, Okami is better.Is Okami really as good as Zelda?
Better IMHO.
You were unimpressed by how it looked like the ps2 version? you do realize it is a port right? I am unimpressed with your post.I for one am buying it again. i loved the game. It was my pick for GOTY 06. I cant wait to control the celistial bursh with the wiimote. All the previews say it works so much better than the orginal dual analog controls. It is deffinatly worth playing through again, that is how good it is. I would say it is as good as a Zelda game. I walk not rank it up with Majoras mask or link to the past (my two favs.) but it would stand its ground against twighlight princess and windwaker.
not as good as zelda IMO, but still a great game and worth playing
Nothing does the Zelda formula better than Zelda: FACT.
Depends on who you ask. Is Okami better than all the Zelda games.......probably not. Zelda: LttP is one of my all time favorite games. However, Okami is my favorite PS2 game, and better than the recent iterations of Zelda IMO. So I'd say Okami is AT LEAST as good as Zelda. Give it a shot.
If you could be bothered playing Zelda you won't be dissapointed by Okami, its pretty much what Zelda should be by now.
Okami is great, better than some Zelda games (more recent iterations). I played through the PS2 version, but will probably buy the Wii version to play it again.
I would skip SSBB and play Okami if it came down to one , but that is just me.
I have only played through a 3rd of the game, so i can't answer this with an absolute, but most reviewers said that it came pretty close to a Zelda ''clone'' but still not quite. This was mostly due to Zelda's overwhelmingly better gameplay, dungeons, and level design. The story and graphics may be better subjectively...But I would still say that Zelda is king for this type of game.....Look at gamerankings Zelda/9.5..... Okami/9.0.To the topic creator: I would still definitely buy this game. I stopped playing it on the PS2 because I wanted to play it on the Wii. In fact, I would put this type of game miles ahead of such games as the GTA series for art design and originality alone.
Ive never played Okami, so I cant give a Un biased opinon.
I thought Okami was better. Although it got a little off the wall at the end it was still one of the most epic games I've ever played. Nothing quite like being a god.
[QUOTE=''shaggygrosser'']imo, Okami is better.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
Well i consider Okami to be the third best game i have ever played. Zelda isn't even among my top 50.
The fighting does get rather repetitive, but it's also entirely avoidable in most non-dungeon cases, so it's only a problem if you make it a problem. Zelda is probably a bit better in terms of level design and combat, but Okami feels way more original thanks to the art style and brush-stroke mechanic, and its story is far ahead of what Zelda has been doing (not that that's hard).
Which Zelda game? Okami was really good, maybe better than Windwaker...
Okami > ZeldaTP imo.
More refreshing yes.
But overall Zelda usually does and is better. TP was just too much of a rehash.Still a 9.0 but atleast Okami felt refreshing.
The last Zelda game I've really played was Windwaker, and I can say that Okami is better.
Favorite games on PS3, 360, Wii, and PC. ...
PS3-Uncharted (awsome graphics, lots of fun.)360-Bioshock (same reasons as uncharted)Wii-SSBB (one of my fav games so far this gen, cant stop going to my friends house to play it)PC- Diablo 2 (i still think one of the best RPGs of all time)What are your opinions?Favorite games on PS3, 360, Wii, and PC. ...
PS3 - Ratchet %26 Clank360 - CoD4 and BioShockWii - SMGFavorite games on PS3, 360, Wii, and PC. ...
Xbox 360 - Mass EffectPC - Total Annihilation
PS3 - Oblivion360 - Halo 3Wii - SMG + BrawlPC - ????Not the best selection I guess, but I've been a little broke this year and I'm waiting for summer when I am getting paid to buy a bunch of other games.
PS3=Resistance: Fall of Man360=nothing until Ninja Gaiden 2 releases (all other good games I want thats on 360, I have on my PC already)wii=not 1 single game for this system interest me (I gave up on last gen tech when I got my PS3)DS=Final Fantasy 3PSP=God of War interest mePC=Team Fortress 2 and Guild Wars
Wii: Brawl, and SMGPC: Starcraft, and Call of Duty 2
Wii- Super Mario Galaxy- It was my personal GOTY, it was refreshing, creative, and fun from start to finish. ANd the luigi playthrough just added to the fun.
360- Halo 3- THe single player was dissappointing for the final 2 missions, but the 7 missions leading up to it were fun and the Ark and Covenant missions were an absolute BLAST. THe MP is amazing still, and the Forge and Theatre addicting. I love COD 4, but nothing in it is half as fun as Griffball and Rocketrace IMO.
PC- Deus Ex- THAT GAME IS GOD. Deus Ex 3 better not mess this up, if we need something more recent. Crysis- Great gameplay, visually it was awesome, outside 1 bad zero gravity mission the campaign was an absolute blast. THE MP sucks though and personally its not the next amazing PC shooter, more or less just a great shooter.
PS3- Metal Gear Solid 4- Might as well give it to the game i am destined to love. IF you want something else. WARHAWK. that online is a blast. I hope Nintendo steps up and gives Starfox and mp like Warhawk.
Wii: Brawl and SMGPC: Starcraft and Roller Coaster TycoonDS: Mario Kart DS
PC = Football Manager 07 %26 Madden series360 = Saints Row (Relatively new to console and only got 4 games so far)
X360: Forza 2, Gears, PGR 4, Ninja Gaiden Black, CrackdownPS2: RE4, Dragon Quest 8, Guitar Hero, VF 4 EvolutionPC: Diablo 2, Jagged Aliance 2, Blade of Darkness, Quake 3, Myth 1/2, HoMM 3, Fallout 1/2, BG 1/2, Wizardry 8, IL 2, Porsche Unleashed, Carmageddon and a lot of others
If we're talking exclusivesPs3: Resistance and Warhawk360: Lost Odyssey
360 - Viva Pinata.PC - Fallout, Deus Ex, Half Life 2 or HoMM 3.
Don't own a PS3 or Wii.
360 - Lost Odyssey. The 360 could sure use more JRPGs or any game that's not a shooter.PC - Jedi Academy. One of the best Star Wars games ever. Pure classic.PS3 - Warhawk. I don't own one, but out of all the 360 games I've played this was the best.I have yet to play a Wii.
PS3 - Don't have one yet, but I imagine it would be Uncharted360 - BioshockWii - Mario GalaxyPC - oh god.. this one is hard, probably Deus Ex, but this generation it would probably be World of Warcraft. Most recently, it would probably be World in Conflict. Hard to say though, with so many great games.
PS2: God of War IIps3: Uncharted360: Lost OddessyDS: Final Fantasy IIIPSP: Jeanne D'Arc
PS3 - Resistance, Warhawk, Uncharted (the only games i have on ps3 lol)
360 - GeOW, COD4, TF2, BF2MC, PGR3, Forza 2
PC - Call of Duty 1 %26 UO
GC - MK DD
PS2 - Sly Raccoon 2
Xbox - SC Chaos Theory
Wii: Zelda TP. SM Galaxy, Zack and Wiki, RE4,
360: CoD4, Gears of war, Bioshock, Mass effect, R6:Vegas, Portal, HL2, Halo3, (yep, shooters)PS3: Uncharted, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Flow, UT3, Stardust HD, echodrome (demo so far),Warhawk, Burnou Paradise DS: mariokart DS, Zeldea: phantom hourglassPC: Crysis (haven't got it my self, played it at a friends house maxed out on a HD projector... holy crap..)oh sorry, just one game per console..... ehh... too hard for me...
360: Lost OdysseyPS3: COD 4Wii: BrawlPC: Halo CE lol jk
PS3 - Ratchet %26 Clank360 - CoD4 and BioShockWii - SMGFavorite games on PS3, 360, Wii, and PC. ...
Xbox 360 - Mass EffectPC - Total Annihilation
PS3 - Oblivion360 - Halo 3Wii - SMG + BrawlPC - ????Not the best selection I guess, but I've been a little broke this year and I'm waiting for summer when I am getting paid to buy a bunch of other games.
PS3=Resistance: Fall of Man360=nothing until Ninja Gaiden 2 releases (all other good games I want thats on 360, I have on my PC already)wii=not 1 single game for this system interest me (I gave up on last gen tech when I got my PS3)DS=Final Fantasy 3PSP=God of War interest mePC=Team Fortress 2 and Guild Wars
Wii: Brawl, and SMGPC: Starcraft, and Call of Duty 2
Wii- Super Mario Galaxy- It was my personal GOTY, it was refreshing, creative, and fun from start to finish. ANd the luigi playthrough just added to the fun.
360- Halo 3- THe single player was dissappointing for the final 2 missions, but the 7 missions leading up to it were fun and the Ark and Covenant missions were an absolute BLAST. THe MP is amazing still, and the Forge and Theatre addicting. I love COD 4, but nothing in it is half as fun as Griffball and Rocketrace IMO.
PC- Deus Ex- THAT GAME IS GOD. Deus Ex 3 better not mess this up, if we need something more recent. Crysis- Great gameplay, visually it was awesome, outside 1 bad zero gravity mission the campaign was an absolute blast. THE MP sucks though and personally its not the next amazing PC shooter, more or less just a great shooter.
PS3- Metal Gear Solid 4- Might as well give it to the game i am destined to love. IF you want something else. WARHAWK. that online is a blast. I hope Nintendo steps up and gives Starfox and mp like Warhawk.
Wii: Brawl and SMGPC: Starcraft and Roller Coaster TycoonDS: Mario Kart DS
PC = Football Manager 07 %26 Madden series360 = Saints Row (Relatively new to console and only got 4 games so far)
X360: Forza 2, Gears, PGR 4, Ninja Gaiden Black, CrackdownPS2: RE4, Dragon Quest 8, Guitar Hero, VF 4 EvolutionPC: Diablo 2, Jagged Aliance 2, Blade of Darkness, Quake 3, Myth 1/2, HoMM 3, Fallout 1/2, BG 1/2, Wizardry 8, IL 2, Porsche Unleashed, Carmageddon and a lot of others
If we're talking exclusivesPs3: Resistance and Warhawk360: Lost Odyssey
360 - Viva Pinata.PC - Fallout, Deus Ex, Half Life 2 or HoMM 3.
Don't own a PS3 or Wii.
360 - Lost Odyssey. The 360 could sure use more JRPGs or any game that's not a shooter.PC - Jedi Academy. One of the best Star Wars games ever. Pure classic.PS3 - Warhawk. I don't own one, but out of all the 360 games I've played this was the best.I have yet to play a Wii.
PS3 - Don't have one yet, but I imagine it would be Uncharted360 - BioshockWii - Mario GalaxyPC - oh god.. this one is hard, probably Deus Ex, but this generation it would probably be World of Warcraft. Most recently, it would probably be World in Conflict. Hard to say though, with so many great games.
PS2: God of War IIps3: Uncharted360: Lost OddessyDS: Final Fantasy IIIPSP: Jeanne D'Arc
PS3 - Resistance, Warhawk, Uncharted (the only games i have on ps3 lol)
360 - GeOW, COD4, TF2, BF2MC, PGR3, Forza 2
PC - Call of Duty 1 %26 UO
GC - MK DD
PS2 - Sly Raccoon 2
Xbox - SC Chaos Theory
Wii: Zelda TP. SM Galaxy, Zack and Wiki, RE4,
360: CoD4, Gears of war, Bioshock, Mass effect, R6:Vegas, Portal, HL2, Halo3, (yep, shooters)PS3: Uncharted, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Flow, UT3, Stardust HD, echodrome (demo so far),Warhawk, Burnou Paradise DS: mariokart DS, Zeldea: phantom hourglassPC: Crysis (haven't got it my self, played it at a friends house maxed out on a HD projector... holy crap..)oh sorry, just one game per console..... ehh... too hard for me...
360: Lost OdysseyPS3: COD 4Wii: BrawlPC: Halo CE lol jk
50gig for MGS4...get real!
Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL!50gig for MGS4...get real!
Publicity.50gig for MGS4...get real!
[QUOTE=''xNJN'']Publicity.[/QUOTE]True, but many actually buy into it....
[QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE. That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL! [/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success.
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]Yup, agreed.
n00b maths=''ZOMG ITS A WEALY BIG GAYME!! MUST TAKE ME 4 YEARTRS TOW COMPLWETe!!!'' followed by some console war spam nobody cares about.Yeh thats kinda how it works... XD
[QUOTE=''Serbiam''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE. That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL! [/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success. [/QUOTE]you seem to ignore all the possible things you could do in the mgs and by that i mean the different actions and reactions of the enemies, the areas, the cutscenes the extras the weapons which were also incredibily numerous. for instance i own gears of war on pc and it occupies almost 10GB of space (it's a great game and all i can't bash the game i really love it) but you dont have NEARLY as much different actions / weapons / cutscenes / possibilities as mgs 3 or even 2, which doesnt make the game worse or better just different so i think if a game like gears of war needs 10 GB a game like mgs4 can easily end up using 50 GB
So you think that Kojima is actually lying and that this is just some publicity stunt ? Clearly, you don't **** about him.Sure, the game may not be 5000 hours long and most of its size comes from audio effects, so what ? It's still something to be excited about. :
|Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.
This just makes me remember back in the day when I thought Diablo II's nearly 2gig install was ridiculously huge. Now it's nothing. Oh how time changes these things
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed.Triple failure.[/QUOTE]GAME.SET.MATCH :D
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]PWNED XDbest post ever thumbs up dude
[QUOTE=''NWA_31''] So you think that Kojima is actually lying and that this is just some publicity stunt ? Clearly, you don't **** about him.Sure, the game may not be 5000 hours long and most of its size comes from audio effects, so what ? It's still something to be excited about. :|[/QUOTE] agreed. The TC ain't smarter than Hideo.
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed.Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?As for the TC, I agree that Uncompressed audio (my fav feature of ps3 and Blu-Ray movies btw) is where a majority of this space is being utilized.
Marketing. I dont buy into it either. We'll find out sooner or later. I'm still getting the game though. I dont care how big it is as long as its good.
[QUOTE=''dru26''][QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?As for the TC, I agree that Uncompressed audio (my fav feature of ps3 and Blu-Ray movies btw) is where a majority of this space is being utilized.[/QUOTE]the first ps1 games didnt need the entirity of a cd space just as much asthe first ps2 games didnt need all the space a dvd offered, why would it be different with the ps3? and if the first games hypothetically did need all the space of a blu ray wouldn't it mean that future game would need even more just like it went on ps1/2 ? blu ray is a great move, sony did it right. end of the line
[QUOTE=''dru26''][QUOTE=''roadkill88''] Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?[/quote]Those were launch titles. PS2 launch titles didn't exactly stuff DVD9, but then came GTA: San Andreas and the like. Its not difficult to understand, its called future-proofing. And its no coicidence that the two most successful consoles of all time (PS1, PS2) were both 'future proofed'.
i know kojima might of used alot of uncompressed audio but stil 50gb is still a lot
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success.[/QUOTE]you seem to ignore all the possible things you could do in the mgs and by that i mean the different actions and reactions of the enemies, the areas, the cutscenes the extras the weapons which were also incredibily numerous. for instance i own gears of war on pc and it occupies almost 10GB of space (it's a great game and all i can't bash the game i really love it) but you dont have NEARLY as much different actions / weapons / cutscenes / possibilities as mgs 3 or even 2, which doesnt make the game worse or better just different so i think if a game like gears of war needs 10 GB a game like mgs4 can easily end up using 50 GB[/QUOTE]You obviously have NO idea what your talking about. you easy to get to arnt' you? Seriously tho, coming from 9gig than to 50gig saying it isn't enough can't be taken seriously, sad you do.Compression techniques are great option..know why? because the majority of gamers won't hear or see the different and in the end don't care of better audio and uncompressed data, its about gameplay ands story.the fact you compared it to PC, was self ownage.stop blackheads
Publicity.50gig for MGS4...get real!
[QUOTE=''xNJN'']Publicity.[/QUOTE]True, but many actually buy into it....
[QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE. That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL! [/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success.
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]Yup, agreed.
n00b maths=''ZOMG ITS A WEALY BIG GAYME!! MUST TAKE ME 4 YEARTRS TOW COMPLWETe!!!'' followed by some console war spam nobody cares about.Yeh thats kinda how it works... XD
[QUOTE=''Serbiam''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE. That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL! [/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success. [/QUOTE]you seem to ignore all the possible things you could do in the mgs and by that i mean the different actions and reactions of the enemies, the areas, the cutscenes the extras the weapons which were also incredibily numerous. for instance i own gears of war on pc and it occupies almost 10GB of space (it's a great game and all i can't bash the game i really love it) but you dont have NEARLY as much different actions / weapons / cutscenes / possibilities as mgs 3 or even 2, which doesnt make the game worse or better just different so i think if a game like gears of war needs 10 GB a game like mgs4 can easily end up using 50 GB
So you think that Kojima is actually lying and that this is just some publicity stunt ? Clearly, you don't **** about him.Sure, the game may not be 5000 hours long and most of its size comes from audio effects, so what ? It's still something to be excited about. :
|Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.
This just makes me remember back in the day when I thought Diablo II's nearly 2gig install was ridiculously huge. Now it's nothing. Oh how time changes these things
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed.Triple failure.[/QUOTE]GAME.SET.MATCH :D
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]PWNED XDbest post ever thumbs up dude
[QUOTE=''NWA_31''] So you think that Kojima is actually lying and that this is just some publicity stunt ? Clearly, you don't **** about him.Sure, the game may not be 5000 hours long and most of its size comes from audio effects, so what ? It's still something to be excited about. :|[/QUOTE] agreed. The TC ain't smarter than Hideo.
[QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed.Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?As for the TC, I agree that Uncompressed audio (my fav feature of ps3 and Blu-Ray movies btw) is where a majority of this space is being utilized.
Marketing. I dont buy into it either. We'll find out sooner or later. I'm still getting the game though. I dont care how big it is as long as its good.
[QUOTE=''dru26''][QUOTE=''roadkill88'']Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?As for the TC, I agree that Uncompressed audio (my fav feature of ps3 and Blu-Ray movies btw) is where a majority of this space is being utilized.[/QUOTE]the first ps1 games didnt need the entirity of a cd space just as much asthe first ps2 games didnt need all the space a dvd offered, why would it be different with the ps3? and if the first games hypothetically did need all the space of a blu ray wouldn't it mean that future game would need even more just like it went on ps1/2 ? blu ray is a great move, sony did it right. end of the line
[QUOTE=''dru26''][QUOTE=''roadkill88''] Nintendo 64 fanboys: CD's aren't needed.Sega Dreamcast fanboys: DVD's aren't needed.Xbox 360 fanboys: Blu-Ray isn't needed. Triple failure.[/QUOTE]i own a ps3 before you call me a fanboy, but can you show me where the 17+ gbs were used in Motorstorm, RFoM, Lair, and Uncharted, all of which were claimed to need it?[/quote]Those were launch titles. PS2 launch titles didn't exactly stuff DVD9, but then came GTA: San Andreas and the like. Its not difficult to understand, its called future-proofing. And its no coicidence that the two most successful consoles of all time (PS1, PS2) were both 'future proofed'.
i know kojima might of used alot of uncompressed audio but stil 50gb is still a lot
[QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam''][QUOTE=''sambalimbo''][QUOTE=''Serbiam'']Sure its happening, but one can't help but wonder the fact that since MGS is huge on the PLAYSTATION platform and moved many copies, doesn't anyone else think, Hideo feels the need to play hero and try and force this, to make sony seem right? coming from 9 gigs with PS2 titles and saying 50 gig isn't enough is hilarious and total BS. While his a respected dev and intelligent, that doesn't mean everything he says is TRUE.That being said, most of the game will be uncompressed taking up chunks of data, EXPECIALLY AUDIO....all this doesn't make a game sell better, and telling gamers that its a HUGE GAME won't change many people opinion regarding the issue of MORE SPACE IS BETTER, people arn't stupid. BTW, don't think this is a hate respone to MGS4, i love the series and can't wait for the game, but i feel this is just OVERKILL![/QUOTE]you are saying this because you didn't listen to hideo in old interviews when he was working on mgs 2 and 3 where he always stated he didn't have enough space or console power to realise what he really wanted and he thought with the ps3 he could push it to the limit what he actually did ^^ [/QUOTE]but that doesn't make sense, how can stuff available today not be enough for a game like MGS? what does he want 1000gig, trust me, don't buy it. Theres nothing speical about the game that it needs unlimited features, specs to truly unveil a MGS game. MGS1 2 and 3 were all huge and a success.[/QUOTE]you seem to ignore all the possible things you could do in the mgs and by that i mean the different actions and reactions of the enemies, the areas, the cutscenes the extras the weapons which were also incredibily numerous. for instance i own gears of war on pc and it occupies almost 10GB of space (it's a great game and all i can't bash the game i really love it) but you dont have NEARLY as much different actions / weapons / cutscenes / possibilities as mgs 3 or even 2, which doesnt make the game worse or better just different so i think if a game like gears of war needs 10 GB a game like mgs4 can easily end up using 50 GB[/QUOTE]You obviously have NO idea what your talking about. you easy to get to arnt' you? Seriously tho, coming from 9gig than to 50gig saying it isn't enough can't be taken seriously, sad you do.Compression techniques are great option..know why? because the majority of gamers won't hear or see the different and in the end don't care of better audio and uncompressed data, its about gameplay ands story.the fact you compared it to PC, was self ownage.
Uh-Oh fanboys. Nintendo gonna ''rev ...
Looks like nintendo got alot of trick pony's up it's sleeve for the 2nd half of 2008. Check out this inteview[url]http://www.gametrailers.com/gametrailerstv_player.php?ep=11%26ch=1%26sd=0[/url]Uh-Oh fanboys. Nintendo gonna ''rev ...
Probably new Wiifit board games.Uh-Oh fanboys. Nintendo gonna ''rev ...
Why do people believe everthing these PR figures have to say? What did you expect him to say, ''wait til next year, we dont have anything big to announce''?
Hopefully not another casual gimmick like Wii-fit. An update for SSBB to let you use custom stages online would be nice.
I hope they will announced Pikmin 3 and a new IP.:D
Nintendo is focusing on the casual non gamer,, oh noes.. thats why Reggie said ''The gamers are going to be excited, as well as the expanded market''.
Nintendo better. Cause the Wii's 08\09 lineup is 'meh' right now IMO.
I smell new Zelda game announcement.Its going to be one hell of a E3 Sony and Nintendo have held back announcements teasing us till now.Microsoft have spilled out GeoW 2 already and some nice info on Fable 2 they are left with Banjo theerie , Alan Wake and I guess couple of more new IP's.
Wii 2 coming fall 09 :P
Seriously though I'm saying a new Zelda.
E3 should be pretty good from all three companies this year. Can't wait.
Needs a Kirby game, tbh.
I'm not gonna say what I think Nintendo will show at E3 just yet, but this doesn't surprise me. I'm expecting Nintendo to kick ass at E3 this year.
A relaunch of the Kid Icarus series will be announced.
When is E3? Also I have learned to hype little news from companies who say they'll be dropping megatons and stuff of the like.Also with Nintendo mostly... Nintendo is always so tight lipped on everything, they hardly release a peep on something till maybe three months prior to release and even then! Unless they have a bunch of games coming out this year then it may be a lot, otherwise I expect small peeps and them announcing some 08 games for release with info on thos. Everything else that's a peep may likely be just to keep fans hoping/dreaming till the official word is said. Oh and expect one or two major game releases to be delayed.
Probably just the fall line up and maybe the trailer for the new Zelda.
[QUOTE=''yoshi_64''] When is E3? Also I have learned to hype little news from companies who say they'll be dropping megatons and stuff of the like.[/QUOTE]July I think. I know it's sometime in the summer.Really, I'm expecting to see something big from Nintendo. After Mario Kart, I was wondering what exactly their next big game would be.
Kid Icarus for holiday 08, and a new Zelda for 09
what did you expect him to say? ''were gonna release more mini games and try to appease the casual adience''? you do realize that would put the nintendo fans into major damage control
Gah, I hope that game is a new Kirby or Donkey Kong platformer.
I won't mind Wii Music, just don't show Wii Fit 2.
Probably new Wiifit board games.Uh-Oh fanboys. Nintendo gonna ''rev ...
Why do people believe everthing these PR figures have to say? What did you expect him to say, ''wait til next year, we dont have anything big to announce''?
Hopefully not another casual gimmick like Wii-fit. An update for SSBB to let you use custom stages online would be nice.
I hope they will announced Pikmin 3 and a new IP.:D
Nintendo is focusing on the casual non gamer,, oh noes.. thats why Reggie said ''The gamers are going to be excited, as well as the expanded market''.
Nintendo better. Cause the Wii's 08\09 lineup is 'meh' right now IMO.
I smell new Zelda game announcement.Its going to be one hell of a E3 Sony and Nintendo have held back announcements teasing us till now.Microsoft have spilled out GeoW 2 already and some nice info on Fable 2 they are left with Banjo theerie , Alan Wake and I guess couple of more new IP's.
Wii 2 coming fall 09 :P
Seriously though I'm saying a new Zelda.
E3 should be pretty good from all three companies this year. Can't wait.
Needs a Kirby game, tbh.
I'm not gonna say what I think Nintendo will show at E3 just yet, but this doesn't surprise me. I'm expecting Nintendo to kick ass at E3 this year.
A relaunch of the Kid Icarus series will be announced.
When is E3? Also I have learned to hype little news from companies who say they'll be dropping megatons and stuff of the like.Also with Nintendo mostly... Nintendo is always so tight lipped on everything, they hardly release a peep on something till maybe three months prior to release and even then! Unless they have a bunch of games coming out this year then it may be a lot, otherwise I expect small peeps and them announcing some 08 games for release with info on thos. Everything else that's a peep may likely be just to keep fans hoping/dreaming till the official word is said. Oh and expect one or two major game releases to be delayed.
Probably just the fall line up and maybe the trailer for the new Zelda.
[QUOTE=''yoshi_64''] When is E3? Also I have learned to hype little news from companies who say they'll be dropping megatons and stuff of the like.[/QUOTE]July I think. I know it's sometime in the summer.Really, I'm expecting to see something big from Nintendo. After Mario Kart, I was wondering what exactly their next big game would be.
Kid Icarus for holiday 08, and a new Zelda for 09
what did you expect him to say? ''were gonna release more mini games and try to appease the casual adience''? you do realize that would put the nintendo fans into major damage control
Gah, I hope that game is a new Kirby or Donkey Kong platformer.
I won't mind Wii Music, just don't show Wii Fit 2.
Playstation 3, Blu-ray, and the Naturali ...
When people argue about sales, particularly pertaining to PS3 vs. 360 sales, the counter-claim is often raised that PS3 is selling better than its chief rival only because it is a Blu-ray player, or that Sony or its userbase cares more about movies than games.Those may be true. In the advent of Blu-ray's victory over rival HD DVD, the PS3's perceived value has increased because consumers who are looking for an inexpensive Blu-ray player are no longer risking a short-lived purchase by buying a PS3.However, that the PS3 is selling because it incorporates a Blu-ray player is a separate issue from whether it ought to be selling as a Blu-ray player. Some gamers get these two concepts mixed up. One of them is a descriptive assertion, and the other is a prescriptive, or value-laden question.Countering the statement that the PS3 is outselling the 360 by arguing that the PS3 is not doing so via ''legitimate'' means (i.e. through compelling game software) is rebutting a descriptive claim with a prescriptive one. Gamers may feel passionately that consoles ought to sell on their merits as game machines, but converting that sentiment into a rebuttal against a sales assertion is committing the ''is-ought'' fallacy--or more commonly, the ''naturalistic fallacy.'' ![]()
David Hume, originator of the ''is-ought'' problemPlaystation 3, Blu-ray, and the Naturali ...
Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? Playstation 3, Blu-ray, and the Naturali ...
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]...and the first response commits another fallacy: the inductive informal fallacy of a ''red herring'' argument.
dude! freaky! right this moment, I'm reading a chapter on ''Fallacies of Arguement'' in my Comp II textbook. Wierd! :lol:Anyway, you make another good point.
SW and logical fallacies go together like chocolate and peanut butter.Everyone has their own reason to buy or not to buy a product and every one is perfectly valid within their personal context.
[QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...
that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)
[QUOTE=''fuzzysquash''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping what he's saying...
How can people directly compare the sales of a mutliplat games between two consoles when one has a much large user base than the other. That really doesn't make much sense. Unless they do a percetange of PS3 users that bought cod 4, bump the PS3 user base to that of teh 360 and then make an estimated number how much many copies would have sold if they userbase was the same. But I'm pretty sure that's alot of BS I just said there.I figure I'd post that in here instead of making a new thread.
[QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Who gave you that prestige to say that?
[QUOTE=''Logan832''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Ok leader...[/QUOTE]We means people on this forum and part of determining the console winner is games. GS has it's on console winner you can have your personal preference.
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I want to play the false assumption game too.360 is selling because its fans eventually will need system replacemets.
[QUOTE=''travt-down''][QUOTE=''fuzzysquash''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping what he's saying...[/QUOTE]he didn't add anything to the discussion. if he read the original post, why would he say that?
[QUOTE=''Logan832''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Who gave you that prestige to say that?[/QUOTE]because i've been here long enough to know.
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[QUOTE=''Mordred19'']dude! freaky! right this moment, I'm reading a chapter on ''Fallacies of Arguement'' in my Comp II textbook. Wierd! :lol:Anyway, you make another good point. [/QUOTE]haha, that is weird. What's ''Comp II'' stand for, btw?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player. [/QUOTE] So because a PS3 exclusive doesn't crack the top 10 nobodies buying games for thier PS3???RIIIIIIGGGHHHTTT
Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? Playstation 3, Blu-ray, and the Naturali ...
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]...and the first response commits another fallacy: the inductive informal fallacy of a ''red herring'' argument.
dude! freaky! right this moment, I'm reading a chapter on ''Fallacies of Arguement'' in my Comp II textbook. Wierd! :lol:Anyway, you make another good point.
SW and logical fallacies go together like chocolate and peanut butter.Everyone has their own reason to buy or not to buy a product and every one is perfectly valid within their personal context.
[QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June?[/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...
that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)
[QUOTE=''fuzzysquash''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping what he's saying...
How can people directly compare the sales of a mutliplat games between two consoles when one has a much large user base than the other. That really doesn't make much sense. Unless they do a percetange of PS3 users that bought cod 4, bump the PS3 user base to that of teh 360 and then make an estimated number how much many copies would have sold if they userbase was the same. But I'm pretty sure that's alot of BS I just said there.I figure I'd post that in here instead of making a new thread.
[QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Who gave you that prestige to say that?
[QUOTE=''Logan832''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Ok leader...[/QUOTE]We means people on this forum and part of determining the console winner is games. GS has it's on console winner you can have your personal preference.
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I want to play the false assumption game too.360 is selling because its fans eventually will need system replacemets.
[QUOTE=''travt-down''][QUOTE=''fuzzysquash''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping the point of the original post...[/QUOTE]I'm not sure you're grasping what he's saying...[/QUOTE]he didn't add anything to the discussion. if he read the original post, why would he say that?
[QUOTE=''Logan832''][QUOTE=''CaseyWegner'']that's another reason why we use games to determine the winner. :)[/QUOTE] We? Who gave you that prestige to say that?[/QUOTE]because i've been here long enough to know.
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[QUOTE=''Mordred19'']dude! freaky! right this moment, I'm reading a chapter on ''Fallacies of Arguement'' in my Comp II textbook. Wierd! :lol:Anyway, you make another good point. [/QUOTE]haha, that is weird. What's ''Comp II'' stand for, btw?
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''][QUOTE=''sonicmj1''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Come back to me when a PS3 exclusive cracks the top 10 game sales. Maybe in June? [/QUOTE]What does that have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] The PS3 are selling without killer apps, and why do you think that is? Uncharted? Lair? Here's a hint, blu ray. So once an exclusive is out and if it cracks the top 10 game sales, then noone can deny that the PS3 is a gaming machine not just a blu ray player. [/QUOTE] So because a PS3 exclusive doesn't crack the top 10 nobodies buying games for thier PS3???RIIIIIIGGGHHHTTT
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